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Player Discussion Jeff Skinner - Part II
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Ristolainen got the primary assist on that one and that's his go-to move to break the puck out other than throwing it up the boards to a pinching defenseman.
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LeBrun confirmed 100% he has a complete NMC ... total control of situation. This is why we got him so cheap
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This trade just keeps getting better. Now if the Sabres could just get Skinner re-signed...
That is really surprising.
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He's depressed. His life long dream was to play for Phil Housley and it was snatched away.
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Skinner has now reached the 2nd best goal scoring season of his career, 4 away from a new high. Even if he scores at a .25 gpg the last 26 games of the season he would still hit 40 goals. It has been a decade since we had a 40 goal scorer. Botts deserves credit for bringing him in and even more credit if he extends him.
Now for whatever reason he does not extend and is willing to waive his NMC I would expect a huge return. Brian Boyle got a 2nd, if Skinner is moved the 2nd leading goal scorer would bring back a 1st+top prospect. Probably more. Skinner is either kept 8 years between 8 or 9 per agreed upon at the TDL or he is dealt at the deadline. Do not foresee him being here in March and beyond without an extension.
Now for whatever reason he does not extend and is willing to waive his NMC I would expect a huge return. Brian Boyle got a 2nd, if Skinner is moved the 2nd leading goal scorer would bring back a 1st+top prospect. Probably more. Skinner is either kept 8 years between 8 or 9 per agreed upon at the TDL or he is dealt at the deadline. Do not foresee him being here in March and beyond without an extension.
cybresabre
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Let's send Phil to the ECHL to cheer him up.
He cannot be signed for 8 years until AFTER the trade deadline — that’s an issue. Not a big one because he can’t be traded without his permission. He’s not going anywhere. We sign him or lose him for nothing.
Interesting thread on the main board about the Islanders pretty desperately needing a scoring-line winger to play with Barzal. If they dangled Bode Wilde and a 1st, would we be willing to deal Skinner to them and then try to get him back in FA? He gets a shot at a title now, not too terribly far from home, and then hopefully we sign him for the same money that we would have anyway and slightly shorter term which seems like it would make several people here more comfortable.
Obviously my hope (and everyone's) is to keep Skinner, sign him to 8 years, make the playoffs and go on to many years of glory. But this is kind of an intriguing side-possibility to me.
Obviously my hope (and everyone's) is to keep Skinner, sign him to 8 years, make the playoffs and go on to many years of glory. But this is kind of an intriguing side-possibility to me.
Still a risk and its putting a lot of faith in him coming back in FA. A lot can happen between now and July 1, what if he really clicks and finds that he kinda likes being in NYC? Isles have Lee & Nelson to re-sign which are likely, but Eberle too, what if they just let Eberle walk and replace him with Skinner going forward?
Getting a couple of assets and re-signing him would be great, but not sure I want to mess around too much, losing him would create another crater sized hole in the line-up.
Definitely agree that it would be a gamble, no question. I think I'd prefer to just lock him up, rather than mess around. Just wanted to get some discussion on it. If we could have a Matt Moulson situation (obviously without the massive regression in his game), that would certainly be ideal.
yeah for sure, it would be great if they truly had a 'wink wink' deal to come back knowing that he helped get his team a few more assets.
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I mean, yeah of course.
But there's no chance the Isles are giving up Wilde AND a 1st. And for a rental, I wouldn't think Wilde is on the table at all.
I can’t shake the feeling that this is going to be the next bad Winger contract for the Sabres in about three years.
No question there is risk. Skinner cannot be considered a 200 foot multi purpose player. To be valuable he needs a star centre on his line. With that he is dynamite. Without Jack he has not been anywhere the player he is with Jack. Other teams get that too. When we got him I was thrilled to get a great skating sniper. But he is no heavy weight and has had some concussion history although nothing we know of lately. I would sign him for 8 years but not for a full nmc and not for more than about 8m per year. We need a scorer and we will have to pay to keep him--we just cannot be stupid about it.
brian_griffin
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I do like the joy in Skinner's game more than anything. He clearly loves hockey. That he's in a Sabres uniform is a bonus. I'd like to see him re-signed, but I'd be fine with offering him a bone of a trade to a bona-fide playoff team in return for re-signing in the offseason, if it is NOT Botts plan to make a Sabres
playoff push this season.
playoff push this season.
You've been in rare form these past few months...
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It's not as if they're trying to sign him with the intent of moving him to center.
brian_griffin
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And regardless, assuming they re-sign him, there's absolutely no risk he'll turn into Ville Leino 2.0 (or "two point no", for those of you "keeping score" at home).It's not as if they're trying to sign him with the intent of moving him to center.
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That was true for the first handful of games this season, but when Housley blended the lines a few weeks ago Skinner was looking just fine without Jack.
Doesn't matter much though-- Jack will be here for the entirety of Skinner's next contract.
Skinner is the guy I would expect would take a big salary cut for a full NMC.
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I believe that is very wishful thinking.
Skinner is going to want to get PAID and get the NMC, too.
I've always thought that Skinner was unlikely to give the Sabres a discount on an extension to be close to home.
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Agree.
I’ve said for awhile now that I think he’ll want and get ...
1. NMC/NTC of some sort
2. Full term of 7-8 years
3. 8-9 mil. per
Aaaand I can also picture after 4-5 years ... we regret giving him that contract
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