Friedman: Jeff Skinner on the Market?

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Pretty sure they have.

Their owner did it..

Link? I never heard him say they were going to "retool" or "rebuild".

In his end of season press conference, he said there needs to be a shake-up and they need players that are tougher to play against. Nowhere did he mention rebuild or re-tool.

 

[SlavinAway]

Would Carolina be interested in trading for Garret Sparks (AHL goalie of the year)? Obviously not for Skinner, just trying to put a value on Sparks

He may have some value but we need a proven NHL starter for the next 2-3 years until one of our AHL guys is ready to take the reigns. I did like that bare-handed deflection he made in Game 5 though!

 

[AuraSphere]

He may have some value but we need a proven NHL starter for the next 2-3 years until one of our AHL guys is ready to take the reigns. I did like that bare-handed deflection he made in Game 5 though!

Fair enough, hard to place value on guys who aren't proven in the NHL. Don't generally see teams trading for prospect goalies to play as their starter. I was hoping to package Sparks + Kaps + 2018 1st for one of your beautiful D-men

 

[haveandare]

Could just be the games vs NYR but Skinner is routinely the most threatening forward for Carolina when I catch them.

 

[Lunatik]

Not saying Skinner is worth all of these, or that the Canes would trade Skinner for some of these, but what the Canes need is:

1C
Goalie
Scoring forwards (preferably physical)
Veteran defenseman

Maybe something around TJ Brodie and Skinner could make sense then?

 

[kilowatt]

Muzzin + Toffoli for Faulk + Skinner

 

[BB88]

Maybe something around TJ Brodie and Skinner could make sense then?

Slavin, Pesce, Hanifin, Faulk, Fleury, Bean, do I need to say more?

 

[Neutrinos]

Isn’t he the Cane’s #1 offensive weapon? Aren’t the a team that struggles to score goals regularly? How is trading him helping them? It still leaves Darling in net, so their biggest weakness stays the same while losing their best offensive weapon?

If Jeff Skinner is your team's best offensive weapon, isn't that a pretty good indication that you're not a contender and it's time to think long term?

Skinner has just one more season before he hits UFA, so why risk losing him for nothing?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

If I'm Edmonton I'd be all over Skinner Skinner and Mcdavid would be deadly

 

[McSuper]

What about Skinner andFaulk for EDMs pick9th ova.
What would EDM have to add?
I can see Sekera having a bounce back year and provides leadership for CARs young dmen core.

I would not trade Sekera for Faulk . Sekera was a very solid player for us last year until his knee injury derailed his season . If he balance back I prefer him to Faulk . Now Faulk does have his value as a RHD that can produce points . Coming up with value between the Canes fans and the Oilers fans will be difficult . I see some asking for Puljujarvi , that is not happening . We need young cheap players as such I am glad he hasn't broken out yet . Gets us a cheap next contract . At 10th oa we will probably draft a D man with more upside then Faulk . Because of our idiot GM we have to cap watch every trade . So our young players on ELC are unavailable and if that makes a trade impossible so be it . We also have to watch for UFA or RFA that will be demanding fatter contracts .

For Faulk I would offer our 2019 first + a cap dump Lucic or Russell . Doubt they wave tho so the point is moot . I also doubt Canes fans would agree to such a trade and I don't blame them as even if Faulk D side of the game is lacking you can always get value for a point produce RHD . Just Oilers can afford big adds in dollars

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

I have wanted Skinner for years. What would it take? What are your needs? Obviously you don't need D. I'd venture Dahlin,Eichel, Mittelstadt, Risto and RoR are off the table. Does a combo of Nylander, 2019 1st, 2018 #32 overall pick, Rasmus Asplund etc get it done ? (Obviously not all those assets just listing players not untouchable.)

Carolina wants a legit 1C who will provide elite two way play, elite PK and FO ability, leadership and chip in 60-65 points a season and is only 28? We could make it a blockbuster

Noah Hanifin + Jeff Skinner for RoR + #32 overall + Alex Nylander

Sabres get that top 4 LHD to pair with a Rasmus. Skinner replaces Kanes offense. Canes add #32 (first pick in round 2 which is going to have a guaranteed top 20 prospect available there) and Nylander. Nylander was a #8 pick in 2016. He just turned 20 and is over .5 ppg in the AHL. If he just stayed in juniors the last two years and him dominate kids coupled with him leading the WJC in scoring over the last two tourneys he would have elite value on his own. Instead he turned pro right away and is taking time to adjust. I just feel a trade like this makes both teams better long term. Canes get that legit franchise C. Sabres get a 30 goal winger for Eichel and a top 4 LHD. Canes also add 2 young high potential assets. Nylander can be swapped for Asplund if wanted who may be more valued at the moment.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I have wanted Skinner for years. What would it take? What are your needs? Obviously you don't need D. I'd venture Dahlin,Eichel, Mittelstadt, Risto and RoR are off the table. Does a combo of Nylander, 2019 1st, 2018 #32 overall pick, Rasmus Asplund etc get it done ? (Obviously not all those assets just listing players not untouchable.)

Carolina wants a legit 1C who will provide elite two way play, elite PK and FO ability, leadership and chip in 60-65 points a season and is only 28? We could make it a blockbuster

Noah Hanifin + Jeff Skinner for RoR + #32 overall + Alex Nylander

Sabres get that top 4 LHD to pair with a Rasmus. Skinner replaces Kanes offense. Canes add #32 (first pick in round 2 which is going to have a guaranteed top 20 prospect available there) and Nylander. Nylander was a #8 pick in 2016. He just turned 20 and is over .5 ppg in the AHL. If he just stayed in juniors the last two years and him dominate kids coupled with him leading the WJC in scoring over the last two tourneys he would have elite value on his own. Instead he turned pro right away and is taking time to adjust. I just feel a trade like this makes both teams better long term. Canes get that legit franchise C. Sabres get a 30 goal winger for Eichel and a top 4 LHD. Canes also add 2 young high potential assets. Nylander can be swapped for Asplund if wanted who may be more valued at the moment.

Absolutely not. Your "blockbuster" big time favors Buffalo

 

[Brett44]

Avs want Skinner
2018 16th pick and Andrighetto or Kerfoot for Skinner and 2nd round 2019

 

[Club]

Avs want Skinner
2018 16th pick and Andrighetto or Kerfoot for Skinner and 2nd round 2019

Canes decline imo

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Absolutely not. Your "blockbuster" big time favors Buffalo

Yeah the Sabres giving up by far the best player in the deal and it favors Buffalo big time? Uh no? Skinner has short time left before UFA. RoR doesn't. Hanifin is nothing more then a #4 at the moment, and let's totally discount Nylander being the #8 pick two drafts Ago who has led the WJC in scoring two years in a row. Get real. If Botterill cared about making sure Nylander looked good to coloradocAnes he would have just left Nylander in the O and watch him out up a 2+ ppg and be considered an elite prospect. Instead he's learning A pro game.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Skinner and Faulk will be oilers.
PC will deal the 1st round pick along with something.

 

[izzy]

Isn’t he the Cane’s #1 offensive weapon? Aren’t the a team that struggles to score goals regularly? How is trading him helping them? It still leaves Darling in net, so their biggest weakness stays the same while losing their best offensive weapon?

thats aho now but yeah it makes no sense

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Nick Bjugstad

for

Jeff Skinner

Done and done.

 

[emptyNedder]

Skinner and conditional pick (4th if re-signed, 2nd if not) to Dallas for Faksa and 2018 1st round pick.

The Canes need to commit to Svechnikov and Necas. As much talent as Skinner has, he doesn't fit with either of those players nor Aho/TT. So the organization needs to think how to give the rookies the best chance for success. I like Necas and Svechnikov together. A player like Faksa (if Edmonton is willing to straight swap RNH that would be better, but this is another proposal) could be used as LW to provide much needed defensive support with nice size. His skating is good enough not to be a hindrance to Necas. He would be great on first PK unit with Staal, which will be needed since Nordstrom will be 13th F at best next season.

Zykov/Aho/TT (their 10-games together produced great underlying offensive numbers)
Faska/Necas/Svechnikov

Yes they are young, but playing together gives both Necas and Svechnikov the best chance. While I understand the appeal of Svech with Aho/TT, the Canes don't currently have the other scorers to play with Necas. Plus two scoring lines will eventually develop, might as well start now. The 1st rounder could be used to obtain Williams replacement as he is around for 2 more years at best.

Dallas of course needs someone to score goals outside their big 3. Skinner gets as many shots as any 2 other players currently on their roster.

 

[Habsawce]

Jeff Skinner for Max Pacioretty. Change of scenery for both. Although Pacioretty should probabkly be moved for a pick and centre prospect.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

tough to see a fit with the Kings and Canes. Their strengths (minus G on the Canes) and weakness (Scoring) are similar

Jeff carter

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Yeah the Sabres giving up by far the best player in the deal and it favors Buffalo big time? Uh no? Skinner has short time left before UFA. RoR doesn't. Hanifin is nothing more then a #4 at the moment, and let's totally discount Nylander being the #8 pick two drafts Ago who has led the WJC in scoring two years in a row. Get real. If Botterill cared about making sure Nylander looked good to coloradocAnes he would have just left Nylander in the O and watch him out up a 2+ ppg and be considered an elite prospect. Instead he's learning A pro game.

Okay bud. I stopped reading at Hanifin is a #4.

That’s not even worth a response

 

[rockinghockey]

We know. He sucks defensively and has always sucked defensively. Something something HDCA.

IIRC, you called him a 3rd pairing PP specialist the other day. Why do you even want him?

Because EDM needs a right shot PP guy and I would be ok with him but not willing to pay the price CAR fans are asking. He has regressed each of the last four yrs not worth our 10th over all pick. EDM needs a 2nd pairing isn’t shot dman. Not a 3rd pairing.

 

[GoldiFox]

Because EDM needs a right shot PP guy and I would be ok with him but not willing to pay the price CAR fans are asking. He has regressed each of the last four yrs not worth our 10th over all pick. EDM needs a 2nd pairing isn’t shot dman. Not a 3rd pairing.

Justin Faulk - 3rd pairing D. He "regressed" last year? #2 in the entire league (tied with Shea Weber and Erik Karlsson) with 17 Goals from a defenseman is "regressing"? Give your head a shake. He's closer to 1st pairing than 3rd.

Over the past 4 years of Faulk's accused "regressing" he is #7 in the entire league in goals from Defensemen with 56 goals. Players sandwiching him in the rankings (with no omissions) are Weber (58), Byfuglien (58), Giordano (57), Faulk (56), Josi (55), Ekblad (53), and Hedman (53). "3rd pairing" indeed, let us also not forget that he just turned 26 years old.

If you don't want to pay the price that is fine. No need to spew nonsense in trying to devalue a guy you clearly never watch, seemingly hate, but also apparently want on your team.

 

[rockinghockey]

Skinner and Faulk will be oilers.
PC will deal the 1st round pick along with something.

This is something I would look at from EDM but what would EDM have to add. Then we have to move a few contracts. Didn’t the owner stated CAR needs to get tougher.
10th, Kaissian, 2019 2nd
Faulk and Skinner
RNH, McD
Skinner, LD

Nurse, Larsson
Klefbom, Faulk(hopefully Klefbom can cover his d-game)
Russel, Benning
Sekera or Russel would have to be moved for cap reasons, would rather move Russel