Confirmed with Link: Jeff Carter Traded to Pittsburgh / Jeff Carter Appreciation Thread

[Scottkmlps]

(what's a PTBNL)

Player to be named later

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I feel like a lot of the argument that Blake didn't get enough kind of implodes on itself anyway. People couldn't wait to rid themselves of him earlier, why would they think they would get good value back? And when we got, imo, surprising value back, why wouldn't that be enough if you just wanted to be rid of him? Especially if you think Blake is a weakling that Carter was holding hostage and he had no other choices anyway? There's no logic to connect those dots.

I dunno. I want to give some folks the benefit of the doubt but some are clearly complaining just to complain.

Player to be named later

Thank you! Should have seen me trying to solve that one

 

[BigBrown]

Personally I was looking into what kind of cap penalty a buyout for Carter this summer would infer.. so that the Kings got anything at all for him was a total surprise to me.

 

[kilowatt]

(what's a PTBNL)

Player to be named later, often happens in baseball trades

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Player to be named later, often happens in baseball trades

Yeah I wasn't sure why that didn't click. I still have 'future considerations' stuck in my head from the NHL.

 

[kilowatt]

Personally I was looking into what kind of cap penalty a buyout for Carter this summer would infer.. so that the Kings got anything at all for him was a total surprise to me.

If Carter retires, interestingly, Pittsburgh gets some cap relief.

 

[DoktorJeep]

My solution to the Carter problem was LTIR. Win win for all involved. Just needed to manufacture a medical situation.

 

[kilowatt]

Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes.

Blake by all accounts had to ask the player three times to bless the move before feeling like he had permission. My point is he spends to much time making difficult decisions and fails to show decisiveness when under pressure.

I also think it’s no coincidence that the extra money Iafallo is getting next season is offset by the savings on the Carter contract.

So then what was the right solution? Not trade him? You'd be bitching that we kept a "terrible" Jeff Carter playing 15 minutes per night. When has he failed to show decisiveness under pressure? Are you in the room with him? What a wild, baseless accusation to make.

 

[kilowatt]

My solution to the Carter problem was LTIR. Win win for all involved. Just needed to manufacture a medical situation.

 

[DoktorJeep]

If Blake had Seabrooked his way out of the Carter contract, there would be a line of Kings fan clamoring for his statue outside the rink.

 

[BigBrown]

If Blake had Seabrooked his way out of the Carter contract, there would be a line of Kings fan clamoring for his statue outside the rink.

Well he did something better, got some assets for it.

 

[KINGS17]

Jeff Carter was one of the keys which unlocked one of the doors to the vault containing the Stanley Cup.

He did a great job here, and will be one of my all-time favorite Kings as will every member of those championship clubs.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

If Blake had Seabrooked his way out of the Carter contract, there would be a line of Kings fan clamoring for his statue outside the rink.

How is that better than getting two draft picks for him? I have no clue what your argument is or what point you are trying to make.

 

[kilowatt]

If Blake had Seabrooked his way out of the Carter contract, there would be a line of Kings fan clamoring for his statue outside the rink.

Right, totally, what's better than getting assets for an aging veteran? Not getting assets for an aging veteran! Glad Blake's the GM and not you.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

My solution to the Carter problem was LTIR. Win win for all involved. Just needed to manufacture a medical situation.

Jersey is suddenly feeling a little scratchy

 

[kingsholygrail]

Carter should be debuting tonight for Pens against the Flyers.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Carter should be debuting tonight for Pens against the Flyers.

He will score a hat trick but only after it's already 6-0 because he only scores in blowouts.

 

[RaymondReddington]

My solution to the Carter problem was LTIR. Win win for all involved. Just needed to manufacture a medical situation.

...hey, it works for the Blackhawks

edit: whoops, should have read thread more carefully

 

[The Gabe Blade]

My solution to the Carter problem was LTIR. Win win for all involved. Just needed to manufacture a medical situation.

Is this a schtick?

 

[Lt Dan]

Is this a schtick?

Call me crazy, but I would expect a "Dokter" to already have a medical situation manufactured. Like Rickets or Vitiligo

 

[DoktorJeep]

Call me crazy, but I would expect a "Dokter" to already have a medical situation manufactured. Like Rickets or Vitiligo

If you can’t get a rash surfing in the waters off Hermosa, you’re not trying hard enough.

 

[kilowatt]

If you can’t get a rash surfing in the waters off Hermosa, you’re not trying hard enough.

Still waiting to hear how forcing Carter into LTIRetirement is better for the team than trading him for two decent (possibly good) picks lmao

 

[KingsFan7824]

Call me crazy, but I would expect a "Dokter" to already have a medical situation manufactured. Like Rickets or Vitiligo

 

[DoktorJeep]

Still waiting to hear how forcing Carter into LTIRetirement is better for the team than trading him for two decent (possibly good) picks lmao

Saves more money, frees up more cap space immediately. The picks have low odds of converting to the higher value. He was worth more to the team looking to improve ASAP by being completely off the books.

Or maybe it’s just Uncle Phil’s money and no fan should care how it’s spent, right?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Saves more money, frees up more cap space immediately. The picks have low odds of converting to the higher value. He was worth more to the team looking to improve ASAP by being completely off the books.

Or maybe it’s just Uncle Phil’s money and no fan should care how it’s spent, right?

Barely saves money, we have very little need for cap, draft picks are trade chips too (see Faber), he's off the books and not hindering the team from improving.

It's not that we shouldn't care about AEG's pocketbook, but that Carter being traded vs. Carter being Robidas-Island'ed is barely a drop in the bucket, and one that is mitigated through TWO draft assets.