Would you trade a top-end rotation arm for a closer? Of course not. If that's all it took to get Bailey, every team would make an offer.
"Janssen +" the plus would be much different for Bailey then it would be for Porcello.
Would you trade a top-end rotation arm for a closer? Of course not. If that's all it took to get Bailey, every team would make an offer.
Homer Bailey for pen arms? Do the guys at TSN have any clue when it comes to baseball?
Per Ken Rosenthal, Carlos Ruiz is re-signing with the Phillies.
Three years, twenty-six million.
“Alex took his first run at really going after it when it comes to putting a team together that has a legit chance at being world champions, and it’s hard to get it right on your first time,†says Bautista. “Hopefully the second time we’re going to play better and support all the moves he makes, and make them look good, him and (manager John Gibbons). …
“All those losses (from 2013) are totally on the players. All that heat that’s on Alex and Gibby – they don’t deserve it. We should be getting a lot more heat as players, and that’s why the focus should be on each individual showing up ready to go and playing better than they did last year.â€
"Janssen +" the plus would be much different for Bailey then it would be for Porcello.
Homer Bailey for pen arms? Do the guys at TSN have any clue when it comes to baseball?
It's not plausible at all when you factor in how much more starters are worth. Look at what we gave up for Santos vs what we gave up for Dickey. Yes, Dickey was a Cy young winner but given his advanced age, it certainly lessened his value. The only time starters come at a reasonable cost is when there's a significant amount of risk involved, like the Morrow for League trade. Starters are worth quite a bit more.Actually, its kinda plausible when you look at previous deals and see the absurd returns for relievers.
Do I think it will happen? Nope because I am sure Cinci has enough money to sign some relievers -- especially if they trade Phillips.
It's not plausible at all when you factor in how much more starters are worth. Look at what we gave up for Santos vs what we gave up for Dickey. Yes, Dickey was a Cy young winner but given his advanced age, it certainly lessened his value. The only time starters come at a reasonable cost is when there's a significant amount of risk involved, like the Morrow for League trade. Starters are worth quite a bit more.
It's not plausible at all when you factor in how much more starters are worth. Look at what we gave up for Santos vs what we gave up for Dickey. Yes, Dickey was a Cy young winner but given his advanced age, it certainly lessened his value. The only time starters come at a reasonable cost is when there's a significant amount of risk involved, like the Morrow for League trade. Starters are worth quite a bit more.
Porcello isn't worth anything.
Nestor Molina was like our #2 prospect at the time.
Didn't we get EJax for Jason Frasor + Stewart and then flip him + relievers for Rasmus?
- Brandon League + mediocre prospect (Chavez) for Morrow.
- Frank Francisco for Napoli (I cried as I typed that)
- Mark Melancon for Jed Lowrie and Kyle Weiland
- Esmil Rogers for Mike Aviles and Gomes *sobs*
- Andrew Bailey (struggling with injuries ala Santos at the time) + Sweeney for Reddick and two minor league players
I think there are more but this is what I've been able to come up off the top of my head. Basically, trade your valued relievers because they generate a big return for some reason.
- Brandon League + mediocre prospect (Chavez) for Morrow.
- Frank Francisco for Napoli (I cried as I typed that)
- Mark Melancon for Jed Lowrie and Kyle Weiland
- Esmil Rogers for Mike Aviles and Gomes *sobs*
- Andrew Bailey (struggling with injuries ala Santos at the time) + Sweeney for Reddick and two minor league players
I think there are more but this is what I've been able to come up off the top of my head. Basically, trade your valued relievers because they generate a big return for some reason.
Morrow was a reliever himself at the time I believe? Kind of a pain to sort through the stats on my phone. He was drafted high, was a starter, then a closer I think. The Napoli deal was simply an awful deal, I cannot defend that one. Low ride improved drastically IIRC as well. Rogers was pretty bad himself and Reddicks numbers also improved dramatically post-trade.
Man is Amaro a terrible GM. Really, 3 years/26M for Ruiz. A soon to be 35 year old coming off a down season gets 3 years?
Me thinks Russell Martin will get paid next winter.
Makes me think the Blue Jays should attempt to buy low on Miguel Montero. After the Chooch contract, Saltalamacchia and McCann are going to get paid. Montero's $12m for four more years will look like a discount in comparison.
Number two prospect when we had a horrid farm system, he was in single A I believe and only had one pitch. And St.Louis couldn't wait to get rid of Rasmus, let's not forget how crummy he was his first two years here. Suddenly, his WAR made a dramatic leap and his defense became twice as good. It was a deal that worked out, luckily for us.
Montero and Hill?
A sound strategy. Especially when their value is inflated by saves.
Porcello isn't worth anything.
An interesting question would be: how many relievers\closers who were traded, actually worked out?
Makes me think the Blue Jays should attempt to buy low on Miguel Montero. After the Chooch contract, Saltalamacchia and McCann are going to get paid. Montero's $12m for four more years will look like a discount in comparison.
Montero and Hill?