Jason Garrison
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Lonny Bohonos
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The funny thing is when a guy like Bieksa is coming off serious injury (tendon cuts) or like last year with his groin he a piece of **** that needs to be dumped.
Garrison on the other hand gets made chicken noodle soup and lauded for all that he could be.
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If it's just a matter of them not meshing chemistry-wise, I wouldn't mind seeing Edler-Tanev and Hamhuis-Garrison for a bit. But I think G5 has been playing through some sort of injury himself too, which would be reason to wonder why he needs to play through it in the first place when we have Corrado in the minors.
Personally I'd like to see either just Edler or Garrison on the right point, and not both, with Kesler opposite him providing the right shot option.
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I don't think people expect 40 points out of him, just that it was a possibility if he stayed on the #1 unit all year. It's his two-way play that I judge him on, not necessarily PP goals.
Lonny Bohonos
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Did you read this thread? Or are we going to be arguing the semantics of "expectations"?
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Sure, let's go there. I see it more as people hoping for 40 points. But we all know he wasn't signed to put up gaudy totals like that - only it was a possibility if he got top PP time.
Well I thought garrison could get forty at start of year with more pp time but our pp sucks so those points didn't come to fruition.
I guess his hot start raised my expectations a bit but if I think about it he's not really a puck moving play making dman. He gets most of his points by shooting or getting assists off his rebounds. He doesn't really initiate many scoring chances off the rush or with sweet passing.
I guess his hot start raised my expectations a bit but if I think about it he's not really a puck moving play making dman. He gets most of his points by shooting or getting assists off his rebounds. He doesn't really initiate many scoring chances off the rush or with sweet passing.
he's probably playing injured. earlier in the year he was racking up points, now he's somewhat cooled off
Lonny Bohonos
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Like I said its semantics. Hope vs expectations.
Hes not getting top PP because hes not performing. Its a simple as that. Hes never shown to be a top point getting aside from one year in the BCHL.
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Yeah, one where people get angry if he doesn't put up 40 vs. one where people are fine if he doesn't.
He's struggled lately, for sure. Which comes back to the suspected injury people were talking about earlier.
Garrison is at his best playing on the left side but he's constantly forced to play on the right side. Pairing up with Edler has not been good for Garrison as Garrison doesn't have the ability to calm Edler down and cover up his mistakes. As for the PP, I don't think Garrison is ineffective at all. I feel he was unfairly taken off the first PP unit. It's not like the PP is any more effective or dangerous without Garrison there.
Garrison has no business being on the right side. Its hard enough playing off side but he's also not mobile enough, possibly made worse by a nagging injury. That game tieing goal starts with Garrison being overwhelmed, a theme throughout the game.
Also, a dman with average mobility should be paired with a more mobile partner imao.
That's exactly what got Garrison here, why they would assume otherwise AND throw him on the right side is beyond me.
Crazy part is there's a simple solution - Bieksa 25-30, Tanev 20-25, Stanton 10 minutes (current toi) on the right side, equal parts fr Hamhuis, Garrison and Edler on the left (though Edler should be out there with Tanev as much as possible).
Also, a dman with average mobility should be paired with a more mobile partner imao.
That's exactly what got Garrison here, why they would assume otherwise AND throw him on the right side is beyond me.
Crazy part is there's a simple solution - Bieksa 25-30, Tanev 20-25, Stanton 10 minutes (current toi) on the right side, equal parts fr Hamhuis, Garrison and Edler on the left (though Edler should be out there with Tanev as much as possible).
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Ditto for me. I think those pairings make the most sense. Plays to to the strengths of all the D-men in these pairs.
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Imagine if we dealt Edler and got an offensive defenseman - that played the right side (doesn't have to be in the same trade; could be a separate trade). Acquired D doesn't have to be as "good" as Edler; as Garrison would now be playing on his more comfortable side.
Was far and away our best defenceman out of the gate this year, and has steadily roared back the past 2 weeks or so as well as our top defenceman. He is kinda like a Sheldon Souray back when he used to be good.
corrado IMO.
i love corrado's ability to move laterally on the blueline during the pp, hes got a wicked shot too.
i'd prefer him being moved for a forward
ive always liked corrado playing with him, just because i think they have alot of similarities and he could learn alot from garrison.
and i completely agree with the other poster saying he shouldn't have ever been taken off it, i dont think the lack of pp production has ever fallen on him. he does his job, i think its the forwards who spend too much time around the outside.
