James Van Riemsdyk

[Doodootheclown]

Couldn't find a discussion thread on JvR, and the signing thread was almost at 1000 posts.

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[Rebels57]

I was pretty satisfied with his play last season.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Damn, he scored 27 goals?

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Healthy and with better center play he should be a 30-35 guy for us. I don’t think anyone is supplanting him on pp1 for a couple more years. It was a good signing by hextall.

 

[deadhead]

JVR struggled defensively last year, I think he was at his best on a line with Couts and Giroux.
That will be the toughest decision for AV, putting the lines together.
In Toronto, JVR took off when he was paired with Bozak, I think they have to find a similar match here, maybe with Hayes?

Giroux - Couts - Voracek
JVR - Hayes - TK
Laughton - Patrick - Lindblom

or

JVR - Couts - Giroux
Laughton - Hayes - Voracek
Lindblom - Patrick - TK

I think as rookies, Frost and Farabee are competing for the 3LW spot, moving Laughton down to 4C.
Otherwise, it's Raffl, Pitlick/Andreoff, Pitlick/NAK as the 4th line.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Laughton shouldn't be anywhere but the 4th line

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

If Laughton gets prime minutes over any prospect of significance I’ll vomit.

 

[Prongo]

Raffl-Laughton-Pitlick.

That should be the 4th line.

Don’t move Lindblom from the 3rd LW sport. Frost and Farabee can battle for the 3rd RW spot. Even if one is on their off hand, they are both smart enough to adjust to it.

This seems easy no? Why complicate it?

 

[deadhead]

Lindblom has experience playing RW.
Frost and Farabee are rookies who lack RW experience.
Pretty obvious who you move to RW.

Why ask a kid to adjust to both the NHL and playing on their off hand, if you want them to learn to play RW, send them to LHV to do so.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

JVR struggled defensively last year, I think he was at his best on a line with Couts and Giroux.
That will be the toughest decision for AV, putting the lines together.
In Toronto, JVR took off when he was paired with Bozak, I think they have to find a similar match here, maybe with Hayes?

Giroux - Couts - Voracek
JVR - Hayes - TK
Laughton - Patrick - Lindblom

or

JVR - Couts - Giroux
Laughton - Hayes - Voracek
Lindblom - Patrick - TK

I think as rookies, Frost and Farabee are competing for the 3LW spot, moving Laughton down to 4C.
Otherwise, it's Raffl, Pitlick/Andreoff, Pitlick/NAK as the 4th line.

We finally have “envious” center depth. A bona fide number one, a legitimate number two and a top prospect who should be at that number two level as well. They all know how to play in their own end. AV should actually have a little fun working this lineup, and shouldn’t have to worry nearly as much as to the defensive deficiencies of a jvr voracek or even konecny. He has a couple guys that can play all over in giroux and lindblom that makes roster creation a little less anxiety inducing.

If you follow that pairing model

Jvr—coots—xx
Xx—hayes—konecny
Xx—Patrick—voracek

G would still stick at left wing, lindblom could eight shotgun on the first and you bring in frost or farabee on the third line getting the “easiest” minutes, with an upper echelon playdriver in jake. Seems pretty good to me.

 

[CanadianSniper]

I wanna see
JVR - Hayes - Voracek

That's a big unit that can really grind the other team.
Leaves our top unit of G - Couts - TK intact,
and let's our 3rd line of
Lindblom - Patrick - (Frost or Farabee)
to get some sheltered minutes and feast on other teams 3rd pairings.

 

[baudib1]

I think there's a good chance that JVR will be better this year because he played most of the season hurt.

That said, I'm agnostic about what line he plays on as long as he gets PP1 time.

If AV wants to get Lindblom, Frost or Farabee higher in the lineup I'm all for it.

 

[dragonoffrost]

JvR gets hurt too much and goes missing too often when not hurt.

Oh wait....He did score 27 goals in the games he played last year and really should have hit 30 with a little luck.

As you were.

 

[Flyotes]

I wanna see
JVR - Hayes - Voracek

That's a big unit that can really grind the other team.
Leaves our top unit of G - Couts - TK intact,
and let's our 3rd line of
Lindblom - Patrick - (Frost or Farabee)
to get some sheltered minutes and feast on other teams 3rd pairings.

This would be the 1st line combos I'd try, I agree.

 

[BillDineen]

Hayes is good through the neutral zone, so I want Patrick with Voracek.

 

[Curufinwe]

Raffl-Laughton-Pitlick.

That should be the 4th line.

Don’t move Lindblom from the 3rd LW sport. Frost and Farabee can battle for the 3rd RW spot. Even if one is on their off hand, they are both smart enough to adjust to it.

This seems easy no? Why complicate it?

Cause we have three months to fill.

 

[Jettany]

Raffl-Laughton-Pitlick.

That should be the 4th line.

Don’t move Lindblom from the 3rd LW sport. Frost and Farabee can battle for the 3rd RW spot. Even if one is on their off hand, they are both smart enough to adjust to it.

This seems easy no? Why complicate it?

laughton rubtsov raffl
Pitlick

Is my hope.

 

[Harhis]

I wanna see
JVR - Hayes - Voracek

That's a big unit that can really grind the other team.
Leaves our top unit of G - Couts - TK intact,
and let's our 3rd line of
Lindblom - Patrick - (Frost or Farabee)
to get some sheltered minutes and feast on other teams 3rd pairings.

This is correct answer.

 

[baudib1]

Giroux-Couts-TK
Lindblom-Hayes-Voracek
JVR-Patrick-Frost
Raffl-Rubtsov-Farabee
Pitlick

let Laughton walk.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

The great thing about pre-season is that it's all about experimenting with the lineups. I know I'd love to see some outside of the box thinking and not the standard cookie cutter approach to line building we've seen from the Flyers. For instance, the Giroux - Couturier - Right Wing Flavour of the Week has been done so many times. Why not try something completely different? For instance, I'd love to see something like the following:

Farabee - Hayes - Giroux
Lindblom - Couturier - Konecny
van Useless - Patrick - Voracek
Laughton - Frost - Rubtsov
Raffl

Work the talented youngsters into the lineup. The Flyers aren't winning a Stanley Cup this year, so it's about development. Let fans get a taste of what the future holds. The good news is that if it doesn't work, guys like Frost and Rubtsov can be sent down and you can put Pitlick and Raffl back into the lineup. I'm not sure if the Flyers could stomach something like that, but they've done it before when they had Carter, Richards and Umburger all in the lineup.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Van Useless.
Good grief.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Farabee - Hayes - Giroux
Lindblom - Couturier - Konecny
van Useless - Patrick - Voracek
Laughton - Frost - Rubtsov
Raffl

Work the talented youngsters into the lineup. The Flyers aren't winning a Stanley Cup this year, so it's about development. Let fans get a taste of what the future holds. The good news is that if it doesn't work, guys like Frost and Rubtsov can be sent down and you can put Pitlick and Raffl back into the lineup. I'm not sure if the Flyers could stomach something like that, but they've done it before when they had Carter, Richards and Umburger all in the lineup.

Well, looking at that roster.

Hayes over coots
G on the right wing
“Van useless” our 25-30 goal guy
Bringing in all of frost rubstov and farabee at once when we have adequate depth at the nhl level.

One of the benefits of convention is that it is the common denominator, it make the most sense. We have a spot on the roster, let farabee and frost duke it out. Someone like rubstov or vorobyev (whom fletcher does not seem to have soured on) breaks in better on the forth line.

The last time we broke guys in en masse like that we finished dead last and got shafted in the draft lottery. The former should have gravity here. If we were banking on great forward depth then I’d say game on. We have a potential elite goalie, a killer defensive core. Build from there and then bring the forwards in from there.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Van Useless.
Good grief.

My favorite part was “Giroux - Couturier - Flavor of the Week has been done so many times.” Like yeah, that duo plus whatever linemates have combined for more than 400 points over the last two seasons, wonder why.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[catbellysqueezer]

He is pretty cool