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I just went through the box scores on hockey-reference. He had 10 EN points in the regular season and then 2 more in the playoffs.
wow that’s commitment; thanks for that information
I just went through the box scores on hockey-reference. He had 10 EN points in the regular season and then 2 more in the playoffs.
I am more optimistic. I think he has an OK shot this coming season and is probably likely to make it the following season. I see some comments this is just he’s a couple years away. We’ll see, He might never playing the NHL, but I think he has a skill in a bit of nastiness that he will do just fine.when do you guys think hoglander will make it to your team?
23 million dollars spent on the bottom six and Utica, but sure the guy making 1.25 mil who almost potted 20 this season is the problem with the bottom six.
Sure.
Absolutely. Can't separate the pick from the player. And Benning doing the exactly the same thing, comparing him to Alex Tuch who was from the same 1st round as a reason he was disappointing.
That ship has sailed. At this point all that matters is :
1) Is Jake Virtanen, as he is, a useful player?
2) Does he provide value over and above his cap hit?
In both cases, the answer is obviously yes.
The Pearson case is fascinating.
The guy was a negative-value cap dump when we got him, and miraculously - in good part due to an obscene amount of EN points - had a 'career year' and re-established himself as a player with positive value.
And then tanked down the stretch (5 points, -11 in his last 18 games when you take out EN points) and further tanked in the playoffs (finished the playoffs on an 11 game, -7 pointless streak). And is out of contract next summer, and highly unlikely to be re-signed at that time.
And there literally isn't a peep about him. This is literally the most obvious player in the world to be moving away from and they've caught a huge break in that they'll likely get assets back in a trade and not have to add. And he clears more cap space than Virtanen and Stecher combined.
But instead they're going to clear less money by clearing out better players who hold more long-term utility for the club.
23 million dollars spent on the bottom six and Utica, but sure the guy making 1.25 mil who almost potted 20 this season is the problem with the bottom six.
Sure.
If Jake made Pearson/Toffoli money then the criticism would have a point but the guy barely makes over a million dollars. I would literally replace every winger on lines 2-4 with Jake clones if they all made 1.25 mil too and I'd laugh my way to the bank for doing it.
The other 22 million wasted on the bottom six and Utica is the problem.
In regards to Virtanen, why is the answer to #2 "obviously yes"?
That was the correct answer last year, I'm not sure it's the answer going forward with a bigger contract.
How is the bottom six our problem when our top 6 didn't score in 3 of our 4 loses despite a lot of PP time.
The biggest problem with the bottom 9 is the wasted salary space. I'd bet based on actual production, our bottom six was decent this year, particularly the 3rd line.
When you dont have a useless overpaid bottom 6, you can use that capspace to bring in pieces (top 4 D) that actually help you be successful.
The only thing I can think of is that they're playing 5D chess and are trying to drive down his value so they can re-sign him for cheap, while nothing is said about Pearson so they can hope to move him for a somewhat decent pick. Out there, I know...It’s just insane to me that not even one media member in this market is saying this. Craziness. Such an echo chamber.
I don’t think it’s wise to bail on JV or Gaudette based on the or first playoff experience.
How is the bottom six our problem when our top 6 didn't score in 3 of our 4 loses despite a lot of PP time.
When JB recently said publicly they need to evsluáte the future of some of their RFAs, he wants to dump salary but won’t use first or second round picks to do so, tells me he’s going to use RFAs (Jake and Gaud and Stecher) to dump Loui, Sutter, and Baer.This. Also Virts got gifted tons of high quality icetime in the playoffs (as did Gaudette) and they got 3 points combined.
When JB recently said publicly they need to evsluáte the future of some of their RFAs, he wants to dump salary but won’t use first or second round picks to do so, tells me he’s going to use RFAs (Jake and Gaud and Stecher) to dump Loui, Sutter, and Baer.
Pearson hasn't escaped my noticed...If it wasn't for Real Gud going the other way I'd have been upset with the deal. I don't think he's much of a player and certainly not one you can rely on to be in the top 6 nor fill in for more than a few games.
Loui and Sutter have much higher cap hits then they have left owed in real dollars. The current Covid crisis has some team’s cash strapped, and saving millions (7 million over two years with Loui; less with Sutter) will be attractive.If you were another team would any of those 3 be enough to take one of this contracts? Svens contract with maybe Jake could be a deal but the sutter/loui ones would take much more imo
Didn't JV average something like 10 mins/game?This. Also Virts got gifted tons of high quality icetime in the playoffs (as did Gaudette) and they got 3 points combined.
Didn't JV average something like 10 mins/game?