Eklund Rumor: Jake Muzzin to MTL

[AlexGretzchenvid]

Has any one heard this? What does it take to get him and why do we want him?

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[HockeyDBspecialist]

a big physical D with a good first pass and an amazing PP player.

Kings are retooling, They need some younger assets.
B prospect + young establish NHLer
Cale Fleury + add for Muzzin ?


btw, where did you get the rumor ?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Any deal for Muzzin starts with a first and add from there This is a eklund rumor

 

[qqaz]

What I know of the Habs situation makes them unlikely buyers for a player that will net high picks in return. And I would like to point out that Eklund, as a source, tends to be incorrect a large percentage of the time.

 

[Reaper45]

I cant see the Habs parting with their 1st + for Muzzin. Because that's what he'll get unless Blake drops the ball big time.

 

[Vachon23]

It would make sense do

 

[CauZuki]

Cale Fleury + Josh Brook + could be a decent start to a trade , but Eklund has less than 0 credibility.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I cant see the Habs parting with their 1st + for Muzzin. Because that's what he'll get unless Blake drops the ball big time.

Cale fleury + for Muzzin ?

future top 4 RHD (currently injured)

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Cale Fleury + Josh Brook + could be a decent start to a trade , but Eklund has less than 0 credibility.

noooooo noooo, please don't give Brook, he is the replacement of Weber and our only future #1 RHD

 

[CauZuki]

noooooo noooo, please don't give Brook, he is the replacement of Weber and our only future #1 RHD

Well you aren't going to get a legit top4 D for scraps this isn't EA Sports.

Habs management team needs to decide whether they want to rebuild on the fly or accumulate high draft picks while rebuilding through the lottery draft. I haven't seen many success stories over the last decade that have a hybrid of both those things. Carey Price is in his 30's , Petry is 29 and Weber is 33 , the window to salvage this core is over the next couple of years or you have a lot of solid vets you need to replace , while not having any top picks while you remain "competitive".

In my opinion , being a team in the middle (not bad enough to tank , not enough high talent to compete) is the worst position in the modern NHL. I don't know how anyone can support such a strategy when they see cup winners left and right built around an elite core of top drafted players. That's the thing , everybody thinks they are the exception to the rule , but I will never root for the least likely scenario, it's purely illogical.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Habs management need to decide whether they want to rebuild on the fly

it was said to be a retool on the fly, even Marc said it. " we are getting younger without losing our core pieces and staying competitive"

if we want a future top 4 LHD, then we have other pieces like Fleury, Poehling, etc. but I would never touch Brook.... Brook is killing the WHL with Woo and Smith and he's getting better and better everyday.

 

[CauZuki]

it was said to be a retool on the fly, even Marc said it. " we are getting younger without losing our core pieces and staying competitive"

if we want a future top 4 LHD, then we have other pieces like Fleury, Poehling, etc. but I would never touch Brook.... Brook is killing the WHL with Woo and Smith and he's getting better and better everyday.

I understand , hopefully we can make a similar trade without giving up anything too significant. However what worries me is that rebuilds on the fly just don't work , there are literally 0 teams to win the cup without multiple top picks. Perhaps Drouin/Kotkaniemi are those picks but I can't put them in the same sentence as Toews/Kane , Crosby/Malkin , Ovy/Backstrom/Kuznetsov , Kopitar/Doughty or even Marchand/Bergeron/Seguin. Habs have a lot of solid complimentary players but literally nobody that can elevate their game and carry the team on their back (offensively speaking).

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I understand , hopefully we can make a similar trade without giving up anything too significant. However what worries me is that rebuilds on the fly just don't work , there are literally 0 teams to win the cup without multiple top picks. Perhaps Drouin/Kotkaniemi are those picks but I can't put them in the same sentence as Toews/Kane , Crosby/Malkin , Ovy/Backstrom/Kuznetsov , Kopitar/Doughty or even Marchand/Bergeron/Seguin. Habs have a lot of solid complimentary players but literally nobody that can elevate their game and carry the team on their back (offensively speaking).

What about the preds ? They have no top 10 pick except Jones/johansen

(They could and will win)

 

[Critical13]

Muzzin - Weber
Mete - Petry
Brooks - Juulsen

That's a workable 6 for the next few years (Not sure about handedness on the bottom pairing).

 

[CauZuki]

What about the preds ? They have no top 10 pick except Jones/johansen

(They could and will win)

Could? Anybody can in theory (no matter how minuscule and unlikely) What have they won? Who says they will win?

I presented all the known data since the lockout and you present with a maybe scenario , sorry that's not going to convince anyone , let alone a smart strategy for a top money making franchise in this league.

 

[Dream Big]

Well you aren't going to get a legit top4 D for scraps this isn't EA Sports.

Habs management team needs to decide whether they want to rebuild on the fly or accumulate high draft picks while rebuilding through the lottery draft. I haven't seen many success stories over the last decade that have a hybrid of both those things. Carey Price is in his 30's , Petry is 29 and Weber is 33 , the window to salvage this core is over the next couple of years or you have a lot of solid vets you need to replace , while not having any top picks while you remain "competitive".

In my opinion , being a team in the middle (not bad enough to tank , not enough high talent to compete) is the worst position in the modern NHL. I don't know how anyone can support such a strategy when they see cup winners left and right built around an elite core of top drafted players. That's the thing , everybody thinks they are the exception to the rule , but I will never root for the least likely scenario, it's purely illogical.

Price and Petry are both 31
Webber is as you say 33. Very similar ages to Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin who’ve won the cup at younger ages so you are right the time is now for the core Montreal guys. Montreal doesn’t have enough high end scoring core in my opinion to be more than a middle team. The elite forwards is what seems to drive a Stanley cup team.

 

[CauZuki]

Price and Petry are both 31
Webber is as you say 33. Very similar ages to Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin who’ve won the cup at younger ages so you are right the time is now for the core Montreal guys. Montreal doesn’t have enough high end scoring core in my opinion to be more than a middle team. The elite forwards is what seems to drive a Stanley cup team.

Exactly what I am trying to say to my fellow Habs fan , the hardest part is being a mix of bad/lucky to get a top pick in a strong draft. Acquiring these players are what the Habs are missing , as they have excellent depth and great/young complimentary players. None of them scream superstar or generational talent , something that every Stanley Cup winning team has had since the lockout.

I'm not a fan of building a strategy based on the least likely scenario , some of my fellow fans think that just keeping the team entertaining with a bad chance at actually winning it all is the way to go...I disagree

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

How is Muzzin skating? Never paid attention to him.

Habs defence is pretty fast, and i see them threading on this direction.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

How is Muzzin skating? Never paid attention to him.

Habs defence is pretty fast, and i see them threading on this direction.

plug in your NHL19, grab the Kings and go check his Skating overall

that's what we all do here

 

[Habs 4 Life]

I still don't think we should be buyers
Stick to the plan Marc, don't trade youth or picks, not ready yet to compete against the Bruins, Bolts and Leafs for at least another few years

 

[sheed36]

I still don't think we should be buyers
Stick to the plan Marc, don't trade youth or picks, not ready yet to compete against the Bruins, Bolts and Leafs for at least another few years

Agreed. Giving up this years 1st and/or any other young assets for 29 year old Muzzin with only a year left on his contract after this season isn't something the Habs should be doing right now. This move makes more sense for teams that are legit cup contenders who can afford the asking price. The Habs are no where near being a contender and they really can't afford to part with any 1st and 2nd round picks or young assets right now IMO.

 

[Hins77]

Mete for muzzin

 

[John B]

Muzzin isn't the right fit for the Habs. He'll be 30 in February. Our Cup window isn't now, it's likely a few years away. You don't give up assets for an immediate fix when you're rebuilding unless that immediate fix fits your long term plans. If you still want Muzzin when this team is ready to seriously compete for a Cup, you sign him in two years when he becomes a UFA.

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Any deal for Muzzin starts with a first and add from there This is a eklund rumor

If the cost is a first plus a prospect (fair value) for Muzzin... Habs have to pass.

 

[CauZuki]

Muzzin isn't the right fit for the Habs. He'll be 30 in February. Our Cup window isn't now, it's likely a few years away. You don't give up assets for an immediate fix when you're rebuilding unless that immediate fix fits your long term plans. If you still want Muzzin when this team is ready to seriously compete for a Cup, you sign him in two years when he becomes a UFA.

31 year old Price.
33 (soon 34) Weber.
29 (soon 30) Petry.

Seems to be important pieces that need to be exploited before they will become pieces you will have to replace with equivalent prospects.

Or do Franchise D and G appear out of thin air?