Jake Allen 2018-19

[Majorityof1]

Haven't Allen met sport psychology?

I don't remember anybody saying Allen is drug user?

I dont judge off-ice things. Only how he performs at ice and Blues jersey. Its good and admirable he's doing his share for ill people and help them.

It doesnt make you bad human if you are average goaltender at NHL level.

Its uncertain whether Allen met with a sport's psychologist. JR guessed he did based on Allen saying he changed his off-season routine and being cagey about what they entailed. But we know how much faith you put in JR. Also seeing a sports shrink doesn't mean you have substance abuse problems or are suffering from depression. That's exactly what was speculated in the post below. It was this post, and not one of yours to which I was referring.

I agree and am a part of the minority on this board that does not believe he should shoulder the amount of the blame he is getting. There is definitely something going on in his head beyond a lack of in game focus. It could be substance abuse, depression, a correlation between the two? When you see him during an interview there is something in his eyes that is missing, a certain spark, like he's trying to hide something that he doesn't want anyone else to see.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Its uncertain whether Allen met with a sport's psychologist. JR guessed he did based on Allen saying he changed his off-season routine and being cagey about what they entailed. But we know how much faith you put in JR. Also seeing a sports shrink doesn't mean you have substance abuse problems or are suffering from depression. That's exactly what was speculated in the post below. It was this post, and not one of yours to which I was referring.

Seeing a sports psych is about the furthest thing from being a drug user. FWIW I know when I was in college our coaches and a lot of other programs had hired a sports psych to have on hand for atheletes. It’s actually very encouraged to go to them as a lot of their work has to do with envisioning and preparation to create a comfort or scenario in which your mind is cleared to promote consistency and comfort if that makes sense.

 

[Evocable Manager]

*I proceed to jump off a cliff*

 

[Ranksu]

*I proceed to jump off a cliff*

Ia that bad?. Looks like Elliott and Hutton are doing just fine. Maybe @TruBlu and @Brian39 can wrap up this graphics?

 

[Evocable Manager]

Ia that bad?. Looks like Elliott and Hutton are doing just fine. Maybe @TruBlu and @Brian39 can wrap up this graphics?

It's horrible,
Allen is giving up over 1 more goal per 60 minutes than a league average goalie would give up. That might not sound like much, but he's really sinking this team.

Hutton has been below average but been wholeheartedly better than Allen. Elliott has been above average.

 

[TruBlu]

Ia that bad?. Looks like Elliott and Hutton are doing just fine. Maybe @TruBlu and @Brian39 can wrap up this graphics?

Allen sucks. We should move him and bring Husso up. I can't wait.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

*I proceed to jump off a cliff*

Kind of makes you miss Halak. Remember when the Blues used to get shut-outs almost every month?

 

[MissouriMook]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - give me Mr. League Average Jimmy Howard. We'd probably have 4-5 more points in the standings right now with a league average starting goalie.

 

[KingBran]

Kind of makes you miss Halak. Remember when the Blues used to get shut-outs almost every month?

I think Halak was underrated. Though hes kind of like Allen. Tons of talent but kind of coo coo in the brain.

 

[DeuceNine]

I think Halak was underrated. Though hes kind of like Allen. Tons of talent but kind of coo coo in the brain.

He had injury problems while here first, and second he was being jerked a little. People know when they're not exactly wanted and frankly, the Blues historically have been pretty flaky with goalies. The team after a few early outs after he got hurt relied on Elliott who also didn't get it done, but I believe the team blamed those outs on Halak -- as if you can do anything about injury. I think he was a little more sensitive to that, but his numbers didn't show it. I'd love to have him back.

 

[TruBlu]

I still have a shirt from the year that Halak and Elliott were top tandem in the league with them posing together under the arch.

 

[BlueDream]

I think Halak was underrated. Though hes kind of like Allen. Tons of talent but kind of coo coo in the brain.

Halak sucks as a starter, he's bounced around teams since leaving the Blues and the only place he's started was the Islanders, who were bad and had goaltending issues just like us.

The thing is, Allen is now even worse than Halak.

People thought Halak would be a star after his 2010 playoffs just like people think Allen can still be a legit starting goalie because of the Minnesota series. Neither are true, because both goalies lack any consistency whatsoever and will never carry a team anywhere.

 

[KingBran]

He had injury problems while here first, and second he was being jerked a little. People know when they're not exactly wanted and frankly, the Blues historically have been pretty flaky with goalies. The team after a few early outs after he got hurt relied on Elliott who also didn't get it done, but I believe the team blamed those outs on Halak -- as if you can do anything about injury. I think he was a little more sensitive to that, but his numbers didn't show it. I'd love to have him back.

You say all this like I didn't live through it.

I would like to have seen his career play out here too. But hindsight is 20/20. Not saying he would have been the savior, I was just a fan and would have liked to have seen it.

 

[Ranksu]

Allen sucks. We should move him and bring Husso up. I can't wait.

Looks like somebody needs a hug, come here boy.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I think Halak was underrated. Though hes kind of like Allen. Tons of talent but kind of coo coo in the brain.

He was an odd duck a bit. But he provided at least average and often better than average results. I think right now we'd jump at that level of performance in goal. I sure would have rather seen Halak in the playoffs that year instead of Ryan Miller.

Remember when Dizee used to be Allen's biggest supporter? But I don't think there is anyone left that tries to defend Allen's performance now.

 

[Ranksu]

Remember when Dizee used to be Allen's biggest supporter? But I don't think there is anyone left that tries to defend Allen's performance now.

@Brian39 and @TruBlu

 

[KingBran]

He was an odd duck a bit. But he provided at least average and often better than average results. I think right now we'd jump at that level of performance in goal. I sure would have rather seen Halak in the playoffs that year instead of Ryan Miller.

Remember when Dizee used to be Allen's biggest supporter? But I don't think there is anyone left that tries to defend Allen's performance now.

Hell, I used to be a huge Allen supporter. I don't post here as much but I stand by what I said. Allen used to be good and I personally don't blame him for the 2015 playoffs like so many do (goal scoring was SO MUCH a bigger problem).

But heck, when Halak wasn't injured he was super consistent. Like you said - average to above average. Which really, that should be all the Blues need. They aren't a team that NEEDS a superstar goalie. Though, the D needs to play like they should (on paper) for that to really be true IMO.

 

[TK 421]

*I proceed to jump off a cliff*

I lol'ed when I saw Martin Jones was 3rd worst. I was assured by San Jose fans that he was way better than Allen.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I lol'ed when I saw Martin Jones was 3rd worst. I was assured by San Jose fans that he was way better than Allen.

Feels like 2 groups sailing on melting icebergs laughing and pointing at each other.

 

[TruBlu]

I'd be fine riding behind Chad for the rest of the season.

 

[TruBlu]

Why aren't we bringing Ville up? He's obviously drowning in the AHL behind bad talent. He's much better than the .890 save percentage and he's been giving up only 3.17 goals per game, much less than Allen.

 

[TK 421]

Why aren't we bringing Ville up? He's obviously drowning in the AHL behind bad talent. He's much better than the .890 save percentage and he's been giving up only 3.17 goals per game, much less than Allen.

Why would we bring Husso into this mess? He'll get his opportunity at some point, hopefully after we've sorted out our coaching staff.

 

[TruBlu]

Why would we bring Husso into this mess? He'll get his opportunity at some point, hopefully after we've sorted out our coaching staff.

I'm being facetious. Ranksu keeps propping Husso up as the savior in the net. I've not been advocating for that either.