Jacques Plante 1962 vs Dominik Hasek 1998 Hart

Canadiens1958 · Jul 9, 2018

This is a study of the 1962 Jacques Plante Hart season and the 1998 Dominik Hasek Hart season.

Basic HF statistical data is here:

Jacques Plante Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

Dominik Hasek Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

Schedules:

Complete schedules for each team for the specific season may be found here.

Hockey Summary Project - All Time Game Scores & Results

Schedule details.

Canadiens 1961-62 season started October 14,1961 finishing March 25, 1962. 70 RS games.

Sabres 1997-98 season started October 1,1997 and finished April 19,1998. 82 RS games.

Both seasons represent the only seasons where Plante and Hasek, each played in at least 70 games. Plante started and finished all 70 games. Hasek started 71 games, finishing 66.

Games on consecutive dates:

Plante 24 such strings inc. 3 strings where he played 4 games in 5 nights. 4 games in 5 nights were no longer permitted by the CBA by 1997-98.

Hasek 13 such strings scheduled, Hasek starting back-to-back games in 8 such strings, finishing 7.

Plante started and finished strings of 3 games in 4 nights eight times.

Hasek started 6 of 8 strings of 3 games in 4 nights, finishing 5.

More to come. Questions comments and contributions welcome.

Thank you.

reckoning · Jul 9, 2018

That 61-62 season was Plante's first year without Doug Harvey, who had been traded in the off-season. For those who were around back then, did the media or fans think Montreal would drop in the standings? Did the fact that they didn't drop play a role in Plante winning the Hart? For example, if Plante had the same success that season, but with Harvey, would he have still won the Hart?

Canadiens1958 · Jul 9, 2018

reckoning said:
That 61-62 season was Plante's first year without Doug Harvey, who had been traded in the off-season. For those who were around back then, did the media or fans think Montreal would drop in the standings? Did the fact that they didn't drop play a role in Plante winning the Hart? For example, if Plante had the same success that season, but with Harvey, would he have still won the Hart?

Pre-season predictions by Pat Curran of The Gazette:

The Montreal Gazette - Recherche d'archives de Google Actualités

Overall wait and see attitude.

double5son10 · Jul 9, 2018

reckoning said:
That 61-62 season was Plante's first year without Doug Harvey, who had been traded in the off-season. For those who were around back then, did the media or fans think Montreal would drop in the standings? Did the fact that they didn't drop play a role in Plante winning the Hart? For example, if Plante had the same success that season, but with Harvey, would he have still won the Hart?

I wasn't around then, but would guess that Plante being so stellar without Harvey played a role in that Hart, as did Beliveau missing 27 games and H. Richard 17.
Interesting that the man Harvey was traded for, Lou Fontinato led the league in +/-. Given that Harvey was gone and Beliveau and Richard missed such significant time, it seems Toe Blake may have had his finest year as a coach, getting superb yrs. out of Backstrom, Provost, Gilles Tremblay, Bill Hicke. Habs were 1st in GA with Plante's Hart season, but also 1st in GF in spite of missing their two HoF centers for big chunks of the season.

blogofmike · Jul 9, 2018

Are the "Days Rest" pages on NHL.com accurate? According to them, in the second half of back-to-backs (games with 0 days rest):

	GP	W	L	T	SV	SA	SV%	GAA
Plante	25	11	8	6	724	795	911	2.84
Hasek	10	7	1	1	288	299	963	1.17

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Canadiens1958 · Jul 9, 2018

blogofmike said:
Are the "Days Rest" pages on NHL.com accurate? According to them, in the second half of back-to-backs (games with 0 days rest):

GP W L T SV SA SV% GAA
Plante 25 11 8 6 724 795 911 2.84
Hasek 10 7 1 1 288 299 963 1.17
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Provide a link. The Hasek games do not balance. 10 GP but 9 decisions. Also there is a difference between teams playing back-to-back and a goalie playing back-to-back.

Plante, 22 of 25 were on the road after a home game mainly Sunday night. 3 back to back road games. No back to back home games.

blogofmike · Jul 9, 2018

Helps to filter by last name: NHL.com - Stats

Canadiens1958 · Jul 10, 2018

blogofmike said:
Helps to filter by last name: NHL.com - Stats

No it does not. Specifically the complete data shows that Plante played 5 more strings of back to back games than any other goalie. Hall was second with 20 to Plante's 25.

Hasek's simply does not balance. At best 5-2-2. If we include a partial against Vancouver, 6-2-2.

blogofmike · Jul 10, 2018

Canadiens1958 said:
Provide a link. The Hasek games do not balance. 10 GP but 9 decisions. Also there is a difference between teams playing back-to-back and a goalie playing back-to-back.

Plante, 22 of 25 were on the road after a home game mainly Sunday night. 3 back to back road games. No back to back home games.

Going by Hasek's game log: NHL.com - Stats the 10 GP checks out, as the "0 days rest" games were preceded by games Hasek played in the night before. The missing decision is from Hasek's April 19 game vs Ottawa where he was pulled after the 1st and the eventual GWG was scored on Shields in the second period.

Canadiens1958 · Jul 10, 2018

blogofmike said:
Going by Hasek's game log: NHL.com - Stats the 10 GP checks out, as the "0 days rest" games were preceded by games Hasek played in the night before. The missing decision is from Hasek's April 19 game vs Ottawa where he was pulled after the 1st and the eventual GWG was scored on Shields in the second period.

Perhaps that creates an appropriate ND. Still have to replace one T with a W.

blogofmike · Jul 10, 2018

Canadiens1958 said:
No it does not. Specifically the complete data shows that Plante played 5 more strings of back to back games than any other goalie. Hall was second with 20 to Plante's 25.

Hasek's simply does not balance. At best 5-2-2. If we include a partial against Vancouver, 6-2-2.

Here's Plante's 1962 Game Log. The 0 days rest count looks accurate for him too.

G#	Player	Team	Game Date	Days Rest	GP	GS	W	L	T	SA	SV	GA	Sv%
1	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/14 vs NYR	4+	1	1	1	0	0	18	17	1	0.944
2	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/15 vs BOS	0	1	1	0	0	1	36	31	5	0.861
3	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/18 vs NYR	2	1	1	1	0	0	17	15	2	0.882
4	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/21 vs BOS	2	1	1	1	0	0	23	21	2	0.913
5	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/22 vs CHI	0	1	1	1	0	0	35	33	2	0.943
6	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/26 vs CHI	3	1	1	1	0	0	27	26	1	0.963
7	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/28 vs DET	1	1	1	1	0	0	34	29	5	0.853
8	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/10/29 vs DET	0	1	1	1	0	0	33	30	3	0.909
9	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/01 vs TOR	2	1	1	0	1	0	33	30	3	0.909
10	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/02 vs BOS	0	1	1	0	1	0	36	31	5	0.861
11	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/04 vs NYR	1	1	1	0	0	1	40	37	3	0.925
12	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/09 vs TOR	4+	1	1	1	0	0	32	30	2	0.938
13	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/11 vs CHI	1	1	1	1	0	0	19	18	1	0.947
14	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/12 vs DET	0	1	1	0	1	0	27	24	3	0.889
15	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/15 vs TOR	2	1	1	0	1	0	26	23	3	0.885
16	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/16 vs BOS	0	1	1	0	1	0	25	22	3	0.880
17	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/18 vs NYR	1	1	1	0	0	1	22	18	4	0.818
18	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/19 vs CHI	0	1	1	0	0	1	30	27	3	0.900
19	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/23 vs DET	3	1	1	1	0	0	31	28	3	0.903
20	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/25 vs BOS	1	1	1	1	0	0	20	20	0	1.000
21	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/26 vs NYR	0	1	1	0	0	1	26	24	2	0.923
22	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/29 vs TOR	2	1	1	0	0	1	37	35	2	0.946
23	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/11/30 vs TOR	0	1	1	0	0	1	33	32	1	0.970
24	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/02 vs DET	1	1	1	1	0	0	31	29	2	0.935
25	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/03 vs CHI	0	1	1	1	0	0	33	33	0	1.000
26	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/07 vs TOR	3	1	1	1	0	0	24	23	1	0.958
27	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/09 vs NYR	1	1	1	0	0	1	33	31	2	0.939
28	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/10 vs BOS	0	1	1	1	0	0	26	23	3	0.885
29	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/16 vs BOS	4+	1	1	1	0	0	36	32	4	0.889
30	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/17 vs DET	0	1	1	0	1	0	32	29	3	0.906
31	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/21 vs CHI	3	1	1	0	1	0	33	29	4	0.879
32	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/23 vs DET	1	1	1	1	0	0	36	35	1	0.972
33	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/25 vs BOS	1	1	1	1	0	0	37	35	2	0.946
34	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/27 vs NYR	1	1	1	1	0	0	24	24	0	1.000
35	Jacques Plante	MTL	1961/12/30 vs CHI	2	1	1	0	0	1	33	29	4	0.879
36	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/01 vs CHI	1	1	1	0	1	0	23	21	2	0.913
37	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/03 vs TOR	1	1	1	0	1	0	33	30	3	0.909
38	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/06 vs NYR	2	1	1	1	0	0	25	24	1	0.960
39	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/07 vs DET	0	1	1	0	0	1	41	39	2	0.951
40	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/11 vs TOR	3	1	1	1	0	0	41	39	2	0.951
41	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/13 vs BOS	1	1	1	1	0	0	49	46	3	0.939
42	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/14 vs BOS	0	1	1	1	0	0	30	29	1	0.967
43	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/17 vs CHI	2	1	1	1	0	0	35	32	3	0.914
44	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/20 vs DET	2	1	1	0	0	1	29	27	2	0.931
45	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/21 vs DET	0	1	1	1	0	0	38	35	3	0.921
46	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/27 vs NYR	4+	1	1	1	0	0	28	27	1	0.964
47	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/01/28 vs BOS	0	1	1	1	0	0	32	31	1	0.969
48	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/01 vs TOR	3	1	1	1	0	0	25	23	2	0.920
49	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/03 vs DET	1	1	1	1	0	0	38	37	1	0.974
50	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/04 vs NYR	0	1	1	0	1	0	28	26	2	0.928
51	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/10 vs TOR	4+	1	1	1	0	0	30	28	2	0.933
52	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/11 vs CHI	0	1	1	1	0	0	34	31	3	0.912
53	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/15 vs BOS	3	1	1	1	0	0	33	32	1	0.970
54	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/17 vs CHI	1	1	1	1	0	0	32	30	2	0.938
55	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/18 vs DET	0	1	1	0	1	0	36	32	4	0.889
56	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/21 vs TOR	2	1	1	1	0	0	29	27	2	0.931
57	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/24 vs NYR	2	1	1	1	0	0	38	36	2	0.947
58	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/02/25 vs NYR	0	1	1	0	0	1	30	27	3	0.900
59	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/03 vs DET	4+	1	1	0	0	1	38	36	2	0.947
60	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/04 vs CHI	0	1	1	0	1	0	41	36	5	0.878
61	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/08 vs TOR	3	1	1	0	0	1	22	21	1	0.955
62	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/10 vs BOS	1	1	1	1	0	0	34	32	2	0.941
63	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/11 vs NYR	0	1	1	1	0	0	23	22	1	0.957
64	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/14 vs TOR	2	1	1	0	1	0	37	32	5	0.865
65	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/15 vs CHI	0	1	1	1	0	0	35	30	5	0.857
66	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/17 vs NYR	1	1	1	1	0	0	24	24	0	1.000
67	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/18 vs BOS	0	1	1	0	1	0	26	20	6	0.769
68	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/22 vs TOR	3	1	1	1	0	0	29	28	1	0.966
69	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/24 vs CHI	1	1	1	1	0	0	27	24	3	0.889
70	Jacques Plante	MTL	1962/03/25 vs DET	0	1	1	1	0	0	29	27	2	0.931

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Canadiens1958 · Jul 10, 2018

blogofmike said:
Here's Plante's 1962 Game Log. The 0 days rest count looks accurate for him too.

G# Player Team Game Date Days Rest GP GS W L T SA SV GA Sv%
1 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/14 vs NYR 4+ 1 1 1 0 0 18 17 1 0.944
2 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/15 vs BOS 0 1 1 0 0 1 36 31 5 0.861
3 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/18 vs NYR 2 1 1 1 0 0 17 15 2 0.882
4 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/21 vs BOS 2 1 1 1 0 0 23 21 2 0.913
5 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/22 vs CHI 0 1 1 1 0 0 35 33 2 0.943
6 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/26 vs CHI 3 1 1 1 0 0 27 26 1 0.963
7 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/28 vs DET 1 1 1 1 0 0 34 29 5 0.853
8 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/10/29 vs DET 0 1 1 1 0 0 33 30 3 0.909
9 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/01 vs TOR 2 1 1 0 1 0 33 30 3 0.909
10 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/02 vs BOS 0 1 1 0 1 0 36 31 5 0.861
11 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/04 vs NYR 1 1 1 0 0 1 40 37 3 0.925
12 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/09 vs TOR 4+ 1 1 1 0 0 32 30 2 0.938
13 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/11 vs CHI 1 1 1 1 0 0 19 18 1 0.947
14 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/12 vs DET 0 1 1 0 1 0 27 24 3 0.889
15 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/15 vs TOR 2 1 1 0 1 0 26 23 3 0.885
16 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/16 vs BOS 0 1 1 0 1 0 25 22 3 0.880
17 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/18 vs NYR 1 1 1 0 0 1 22 18 4 0.818
18 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/19 vs CHI 0 1 1 0 0 1 30 27 3 0.900
19 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/23 vs DET 3 1 1 1 0 0 31 28 3 0.903
20 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/25 vs BOS 1 1 1 1 0 0 20 20 0 1.000
21 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/26 vs NYR 0 1 1 0 0 1 26 24 2 0.923
22 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/29 vs TOR 2 1 1 0 0 1 37 35 2 0.946
23 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/11/30 vs TOR 0 1 1 0 0 1 33 32 1 0.970
24 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/02 vs DET 1 1 1 1 0 0 31 29 2 0.935
25 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/03 vs CHI 0 1 1 1 0 0 33 33 0 1.000
26 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/07 vs TOR 3 1 1 1 0 0 24 23 1 0.958
27 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/09 vs NYR 1 1 1 0 0 1 33 31 2 0.939
28 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/10 vs BOS 0 1 1 1 0 0 26 23 3 0.885
29 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/16 vs BOS 4+ 1 1 1 0 0 36 32 4 0.889
30 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/17 vs DET 0 1 1 0 1 0 32 29 3 0.906
31 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/21 vs CHI 3 1 1 0 1 0 33 29 4 0.879
32 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/23 vs DET 1 1 1 1 0 0 36 35 1 0.972
33 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/25 vs BOS 1 1 1 1 0 0 37 35 2 0.946
34 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/27 vs NYR 1 1 1 1 0 0 24 24 0 1.000
35 Jacques Plante MTL 1961/12/30 vs CHI 2 1 1 0 0 1 33 29 4 0.879
36 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/01 vs CHI 1 1 1 0 1 0 23 21 2 0.913
37 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/03 vs TOR 1 1 1 0 1 0 33 30 3 0.909
38 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/06 vs NYR 2 1 1 1 0 0 25 24 1 0.960
39 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/07 vs DET 0 1 1 0 0 1 41 39 2 0.951
40 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/11 vs TOR 3 1 1 1 0 0 41 39 2 0.951
41 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/13 vs BOS 1 1 1 1 0 0 49 46 3 0.939
42 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/14 vs BOS 0 1 1 1 0 0 30 29 1 0.967
43 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/17 vs CHI 2 1 1 1 0 0 35 32 3 0.914
44 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/20 vs DET 2 1 1 0 0 1 29 27 2 0.931
45 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/21 vs DET 0 1 1 1 0 0 38 35 3 0.921
46 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/27 vs NYR 4+ 1 1 1 0 0 28 27 1 0.964
47 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/01/28 vs BOS 0 1 1 1 0 0 32 31 1 0.969
48 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/01 vs TOR 3 1 1 1 0 0 25 23 2 0.920
49 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/03 vs DET 1 1 1 1 0 0 38 37 1 0.974
50 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/04 vs NYR 0 1 1 0 1 0 28 26 2 0.928
51 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/10 vs TOR 4+ 1 1 1 0 0 30 28 2 0.933
52 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/11 vs CHI 0 1 1 1 0 0 34 31 3 0.912
53 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/15 vs BOS 3 1 1 1 0 0 33 32 1 0.970
54 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/17 vs CHI 1 1 1 1 0 0 32 30 2 0.938
55 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/18 vs DET 0 1 1 0 1 0 36 32 4 0.889
56 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/21 vs TOR 2 1 1 1 0 0 29 27 2 0.931
57 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/24 vs NYR 2 1 1 1 0 0 38 36 2 0.947
58 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/02/25 vs NYR 0 1 1 0 0 1 30 27 3 0.900
59 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/03 vs DET 4+ 1 1 0 0 1 38 36 2 0.947
60 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/04 vs CHI 0 1 1 0 1 0 41 36 5 0.878
61 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/08 vs TOR 3 1 1 0 0 1 22 21 1 0.955
62 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/10 vs BOS 1 1 1 1 0 0 34 32 2 0.941
63 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/11 vs NYR 0 1 1 1 0 0 23 22 1 0.957
64 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/14 vs TOR 2 1 1 0 1 0 37 32 5 0.865
65 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/15 vs CHI 0 1 1 1 0 0 35 30 5 0.857
66 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/17 vs NYR 1 1 1 1 0 0 24 24 0 1.000
67 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/18 vs BOS 0 1 1 0 1 0 26 20 6 0.769
68 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/22 vs TOR 3 1 1 1 0 0 29 28 1 0.966
69 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/24 vs CHI 1 1 1 1 0 0 27 24 3 0.889
70 Jacques Plante MTL 1962/03/25 vs DET 0 1 1 1 0 0 29 27 2 0.931
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Plante's numbers were never in doubt. By default since he played every minute of each game.

blogofmike · Jul 10, 2018

Here's Hasek's 97-98

G#	Player	Team	Game Date	Days Rest	GP	GS	W	L	T	SA	SV	GA	Sv%
1	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/01 vs STL	4+	1	1	1	0	0	34	33	1	0.971
2	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/03 vs WSH	1	1	1	0	1	0	34	28	6	0.824
3	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/05 vs TBL	1	1	1	0	0	1	31	30	1	0.968
4	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/07 vs DAL	1	1	1	0	1	0	30	26	4	0.867
5	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/09 vs WSH	1	1	1	1	0	0	31	29	2	0.935
6	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/15 vs CAR	4+	1	1	0	0	1	37	34	3	0.919
7	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/17 vs MTL	1	1	1	0	1	0	42	37	5	0.881
8	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/19 vs CHI	1	1	1	0	1	0	35	31	4	0.886
9	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/22 vs CGY	2	1	1	1	0	0	18	17	1	0.944
10	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/26 vs PHX	3	1	1	0	1	0	30	24	6	0.800
11	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/10/28 vs COL	1	1	1	0	1	0	19	16	3	0.842
12	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/01 vs FLA	3	1	1	1	0	0	23	20	3	0.870
13	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/06 vs FLA	4+	1	1	0	1	0	24	21	3	0.875
14	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/10 vs EDM	3	1	1	0	0	0	9	6	3	0.667
15	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/15 vs NJD	4+	1	1	0	1	0	32	29	3	0.906
16	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/20 vs BOS	4+	1	1	1	0	0	29	29	0	1.000
17	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/22 vs NYI	1	1	1	1	0	0	29	28	1	0.966
18	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/24 vs PIT	1	1	1	0	1	0	45	40	5	0.889
19	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/26 vs PHI	1	1	1	0	1	0	25	22	3	0.880
20	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/11/28 vs NYR	1	1	1	0	0	1	30	27	3	0.900
21	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/01 vs PHI	2	1	1	0	0	1	26	25	1	0.962
22	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/03 vs ANA	1	1	1	1	0	0	29	29	0	1.000
23	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/05 vs TBL	1	1	1	1	0	0	38	38	0	1.000
24	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/06 vs OTT	0	1	1	0	1	0	23	21	2	0.913
25	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/11 vs BOS	4+	1	1	0	1	0	27	25	2	0.926
26	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/12 vs CAR	0	1	1	1	0	0	37	35	2	0.946
27	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/15 vs DAL	2	1	1	0	0	0	12	8	4	0.667
28	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/17 vs NYI	1	1	1	0	1	0	29	25	4	0.862
29	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/19 vs MTL	1	1	1	1	0	0	42	42	0	1.000
30	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/21 vs NYR	1	1	1	1	0	0	33	33	0	1.000
31	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/23 vs DET	1	1	1	0	1	0	30	27	3	0.900
32	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/26 vs NYR	2	1	1	1	0	0	28	28	0	1.000
33	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/29 vs NJD	2	1	1	0	1	0	19	16	3	0.842
34	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1997/12/31 vs OTT	1	1	1	1	0	0	36	36	0	1.000
35	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/02 vs COL	1	1	1	0	0	1	33	31	2	0.939
36	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/07 vs ANA	4+	1	1	1	0	0	32	30	2	0.938
37	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/08 vs LAK	0	1	1	0	0	1	26	24	2	0.923
38	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/10 vs SJS	1	1	1	0	1	0	42	37	5	0.881
39	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/14 vs TOR	3	1	1	1	0	0	37	36	1	0.973
40	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/15 vs VAN	0	1	1	1	0	0	37	36	1	0.973
41	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/20 vs PHI	4+	1	1	0	1	0	24	21	3	0.875
42	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/21 vs CAR	0	1	1	1	0	0	33	32	1	0.970
43	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/23 vs TBL	1	1	1	1	0	0	36	35	1	0.972
44	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/27 vs STL	3	1	1	0	0	1	19	16	3	0.842
45	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/01/30 vs PHX	2	1	1	0	0	1	36	33	3	0.917
46	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/02/01 vs FLA	1	1	1	1	0	0	31	29	2	0.935
47	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/02/04 vs BOS	2	1	1	0	0	1	26	24	2	0.923
48	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/02/06 vs PIT	1	1	1	0	0	1	37	35	2	0.946
49	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/02/07 vs MTL	0	1	1	1	0	0	34	33	1	0.971
50	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/02/25 vs TOR	4+	1	1	0	0	1	35	33	2	0.943
51	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/01 vs WSH	3	1	1	1	0	0	36	36	0	1.000
52	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/02 vs NYR	0	1	1	1	0	0	33	33	0	1.000
53	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/06 vs NYI	3	1	1	0	1	0	22	18	4	0.818
54	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/07 vs MTL	0	1	1	1	0	0	32	31	1	0.969
55	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/10 vs NYI	2	1	1	0	0	1	22	20	2	0.909
56	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/12 vs SJS	1	1	1	1	0	0	39	38	1	0.974
57	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/14 vs PIT	1	1	1	0	1	0	19	17	2	0.895
58	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/15 vs PIT	0	1	1	1	0	0	22	22	0	1.000
59	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/17 vs CHI	1	1	1	0	1	0	41	37	4	0.902
60	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/19 vs FLA	1	1	1	1	0	0	32	31	1	0.969
61	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/21 vs BOS	1	1	1	0	1	0	32	30	2	0.938
62	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/24 vs CGY	2	1	1	1	0	0	29	29	0	1.000
63	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/27 vs EDM	2	1	1	1	0	0	20	20	0	1.000
64	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/03/29 vs DET	1	1	1	0	1	0	38	34	4	0.895
65	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/01 vs LAK	2	1	1	1	0	0	37	37	0	1.000
66	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/03 vs BOS	1	1	1	1	0	0	26	22	4	0.846
67	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/05 vs OTT	1	1	1	0	1	0	33	32	1	0.970
68	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/08 vs CAR	2	1	1	1	0	0	16	15	1	0.938
69	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/10 vs MTL	1	1	1	1	0	0	29	28	1	0.966
70	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/13 vs PHI	2	1	1	1	0	0	31	30	1	0.968
71	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/18 vs MTL	4+	1	1	0	0	1	24	21	3	0.875
72	Dominik Hasek	BUF	1998/04/19 vs OTT	0	1	1	0	0	0	22	21	1	0.955

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Canadiens1958 · Jul 10, 2018

Problem found. HSP attributed a 12/12/1997 Hasek win as a tie.

quoipourquoi · Jul 10, 2018

Has Lindy Ruff been known to ride goaltenders this hard since his first few seasons (1997-98 being his NHL debut)? Hasek played 52 of Buffalo’s first 55 the following season before injury, and 9 of the first 11 and 26 of the final 31 book-ending the injury in the season after that. Seemed like he throttled back in 2000-01, and then ran heavy with Biron for a year-and-a-half until Biron started losing.

Curious if anyone had insight.

tony d · Jul 10, 2018

Hasek's for me. Hasek's 1998 season is one of the best ever by a goalie.

Doctor No · Jul 10, 2018

Canadiens1958 said:
Problem found. HSP attributed a 12/12/1997 Hasek win as a tie.

This sort of thing wouldn't happen if you'd use my data.

Dominik Hasek

1997-1998 Buffalo Sabres Goaltender Game-by-Game Performance

quoipourquoi · Jul 10, 2018

Doctor No said:
This sort of thing wouldn't happen if you'd use my data.

Dominik Hasek

1997-1998 Buffalo Sabres Goaltender Game-by-Game Performance

So much beautiful dark green after November. So, so much.

Doctor No · Jul 10, 2018

quoipourquoi said:
So much beautiful dark green after November. So, so much.

Even that Washington series loss was a great effort by Hasek.

I need to get off my butt and work my back to Plante's season (although it's amazing how priorities change upon becoming a parent - right now, I'm proud that I'm able to keep the Twitter feed updated while getting 2017-18 data entered for a league or two per week).

quoipourquoi · Jul 10, 2018

Doctor No said:
Even that Washington series loss was a great effort by Hasek.

I need to get off my butt and work my back to Plante's season (although it's amazing how priorities change upon becoming a parent - right now, I'm proud that I'm able to keep the Twitter feed updated while getting 2017-18 data entered for a league or two per week).

I can’t even imagine what you go through. I’ve been meaning to run charts for just like 20 or so players’ careers, and it’s just felt impossible with our schedule this year. Sure wish the NHL released this data, like, 5 years ago when I had more free time.

Doctor No · Jul 10, 2018

It's one of those things that seems like a good idea when it's 1994 and there's literally no hockey data on the internet, and then you look up 24 years later and you're still doing it.

It's still worth it for the stories, though (which is also why I still verify everything through multiple news accounts even when the NHL now publishes this stuff). This is still my favorite one I've found (and haven't seen mentioned much elsewhere) about Ken Dryden:

On December 13, 1972, Dryden was forced to miss a game against the California Golden Seals due to a missing pair of pants. From the Montreal Gazette story: "[Dryden] draped the pants over the back of a chair near a sliding glass door in his fourth-floor room at the Jack Tar Hotel. He left the door open for air while he slept. The door faced a patio. In the morning the pants were gone. Gone too were two pairs of contact lenses without which Dryden does not dare face NHL shooters. Also in the stolen pants was $200 in cash, his credit cards and driver's license. When he glanced at the chair as he woke up, Dryden said he had to think twice. "Surely I must have taken off my pants last night!". Dryden's optometrist in Montreal has been contacted and he will send two sets of contact lenses to Vancouver, B.C., prior to Friday night when the Canadiens meet the Canucks. Meanwhile, Dryden is wearing glasses. Dryden found cover in a snug pair of pants borrowed from the shorter Bob Murdoch, and said he was robbed in a similar fashion in Barcelona "a couple of years ago.""

But I digress. My intent is still to compile a directory of goaltender injuries over the years, and also to maybe get a book out of this someday.

Canadiens1958 · Jul 10, 2018

quoipourquoi said:
Has Lindy Ruff been known to ride goaltenders this hard since his first few seasons (1997-98 being his NHL debut)? Hasek played 52 of Buffalo’s first 55 the following season before injury, and 9 of the first 11 and 26 of the final 31 book-ending the injury in the season after that. Seemed like he throttled back in 2000-01, and then ran heavy with Biron for a year-and-a-half until Biron started losing.

Curious if anyone had insight.

Rookie and young coaches without sufficient oversight

Also Buffalo had a quirky schedule the first two months of 1997-98. No back to back games.

BM67 · Jul 10, 2018

blogofmike said:
Are the "Days Rest" pages on NHL.com accurate? According to them, in the second half of back-to-backs (games with 0 days rest):

GP W L T SV SA SV% GAA
Plante 25 11 8 6 724 795 911 2.84
Hasek 10 7 1 1 288 299 963 1.17
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So Plante has 25 back-to-backs, and only 6 games with 4+ days of rest, while Hasek has only 10 back-to-backs, and 22 games on 4+ days of rest. If my count is correct, Hasek has 119 days of rest vs 93 days for Plante.

Canadiens1958 · Jul 10, 2018

BM67 said:
So Plante has 25 back-to-backs, and only 6 games with 4+ days of rest, while Hasek has only 10 back-to-backs, and 22 games on 4+ days of rest. If my count is correct, Hasek has 119 days of rest vs 93 days for Plante.

Depends if the team or league season is used. Difference of 23 to 26 days

BobbyAwe · Jul 11, 2018

double5son10 said:
I wasn't around then, but would guess that Plante being so stellar without Harvey played a role in that Hart, as did Beliveau missing 27 games and H. Richard 17.
Interesting that the man Harvey was traded for, Lou Fontinato led the league in +/-. Given that Harvey was gone and Beliveau and Richard missed such significant time, it seems Toe Blake may have had his finest year as a coach, getting superb yrs. out of Backstrom, Provost, Gilles Tremblay, Bill Hicke. Habs were 1st in GA with Plante's Hart season, but also 1st in GF in spite of missing their two HoF centers for big chunks of the season.

How did Fontinato lead the league in plus/minus? Trying to wrap my head around that. Was he actually that good a defenseman?

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