Player Discussion Jacob Trouba

[egelband]

Force his way back?

He’s skating now. Day to day. He probably wants to step in and show leadership here. I’m saying I think that might be ill-advised.

 

[Leetch3]

I wonder if Trouba is going to force his way back into the lineup for the next game. I would prefer he just sits it out, to be honest.

ridiculous to imply that trouba wouldn't be playing if he was able to or that the rangers are would keep him out in must win games so they can field the worst blueline imaginable if he could play

 

[will1066]

He’s skating now. Day to day. He probably wants to step in and show leadership here. I’m saying I think that might be ill-advised.

Shut all the veterans down, please! Useless garbage

 

[egelband]

ridiculous to imply that trouba wouldn't be playing if he was able to or that the rangers are would keep him out in must win games so they can field the worst blueline imaginable if he could play

Maybe I wasn’t clear...but I was suggesting he’s not ready to play but may try to get back into the lineup too early to deal with the Caps.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Maybe I wasn’t clear...but I was suggesting he’s not ready to play but may try to get back into the lineup too early to deal with the Caps.

Coming off a likely concussion....i doubt it

 

[egelband]

Coming off a likely concussion....i doubt it

I hope you’re right. But he has been day-to-day and practicing the last few days. So it’s not out of the realm of possibility. That’s why I was saying I hope he just skips the last few games and heals up.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I TOLD you all that the Trouba deal would look just fine once the next wave of big contracts went out to young D entering their UFA years. Do you believe me now?

 

[Matz03]

I TOLD you all that the Trouba deal would look just fine once the next wave of big contracts went out to young D entering their UFA years. Do you believe me now?

Adam Pelech just got 5.75x8 and he’s better than Trouba, so how exactly is it looking better? I guess Nurse and Jones are worse contracts, but not sure I feel better about Trouba deal. Maybe after two more offseasons it will.

 

[eco's bones]

Adam Pelech just got 5.75x8 and he’s better than Trouba, so how exactly is it looking better? I guess Nurse and Jones are worse contracts, but not sure I feel better about Trouba deal. Maybe after two more offseasons it will.

When Trouba signed with us he was coming off a 50 point season. Pelech’s highest production is 21. They’re both defense first defensemen but Trouba’s got the better two way game.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Adam Pelech just got 5.75x8 and he’s better than Trouba, so how exactly is it looking better? I guess Nurse and Jones are worse contracts, but not sure I feel better about Trouba deal. Maybe after two more offseasons it will.

Defensively, they are similar yes. Trouba is a more complete player though.

 

[egelband]

Pelech is one of those guys who’s great on a cheap deal but at “full price” he might be a bit more heavily scrutinized.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

When Trouba signed with us he was coming off a 50 point season. Pelech’s highest production is 21. They’re both defense first defensemen but Trouba’s got the better two way game.

Defensively, they are similar yes. Trouba is a more complete player though.

Pelech is one of those guys who’s great on a cheap deal but at “full price” he might be a bit more heavily scrutinized.

Exactly..

Also, let’s not forget the effect of playing in Trotz’s system and with the Isles’ forward corps. Pelech is a very good defender, but I promise you the two players’ defensive metrics would’ve looked very different if they’d swapped teams last year.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Exactly..

Also, let’s not forget the effect of playing in Trotz’s system and with the Isles’ forward corps. Pelech is a very good defender, but I promise you the two players’ defensive metrics would’ve looked very different if they’d swapped teams last year.

Pelech reminds me of Staal in his prime while Trouba is more a McDonagh type. Sure, you need those defensive defensemen, but they will never win a Norris.

 

[NYR425]

Think Gallant names Trouba the Captain and Kreider, Panarin and Zibanejad as the 3 assistants.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Think Gallant names Trouba the Captain and Kreider, Panarin and Zibanejad as the 3 assistants.

Sounds right. Think you might see Goodrow get an A too.

 

[Sayba]

Pelech reminds me of Staal in his prime while Trouba is more a McDonagh type. Sure, you need those defensive defensemen, but they will never win a Norris.

If only Trouba was 1/2 the skater McDonagh is / was.

 

[NYRKing]

Exactly..

Also, let’s not forget the effect of playing in Trotz’s system and with the Isles’ forward corps. Pelech is a very good defender, but I promise you the two players’ defensive metrics would’ve looked very different if they’d swapped teams last year.

This is exactly right. It's important to have great players, but perhaps more important to have players in the right system AT THE RIGHT TIME. Pelech is a good match with NYI, NYI is a great match for Pelech.

Trouba brings some critical ingredients to our D core with his size and skill that few players possess on D during their prime. The mismatch, at least under Quinn over the past two years, has obviously been with offense and lack of PP production. He's been very good in transition, and plays well on D, particularly against power forwards, but there's been a mix bag with some one on one defense with high end skill players. For these reasons, I'm glad we have him in our top 4 especially given his age, but no doubt he's still overpaid unless he can really be more of a shutdown defender with some offense.

Finally, Mcdonut. Love the guy but he's a great example of where do great players fit. Obviously, he is a superb fit the last two years in the TB top 4. With a less talented and not as successful NYR squad, I guarantee he would be in the Kreider conversation with a heart and soul guy we love but a difficult contract to absorb for the next 5 to 6 years, and maybe worse given his lack of offense. One thing that really changes in favor of TB the last two cup runs is his health. After the beating this guy took with us in the playoffs and his shoulder issues, I sincerely believe the shortened seasons were an immense benefit for Ryan to stay healthy. Great player, great fit, and some really good timing...

 

[Marlo Stanfield]

Trouba's gonna be a really good leader for you guys this year and really committed to changing the locker room. For a team that's transitioning and still growing you'll like him a lot more this year.

 

[Edge]

1. Trouba's contract will continue to come more in line as other deals catch up with it. Not surprising and something that was discussed a couple of years ago.

2. Trouba is probably in an ideal situation to succeed this season playing behind Fox and potentially with someone like Miller. That's a positive possibility for Trouba, for the team, and for fans.

 

[EdJovanovski]

1. Trouba's contract will continue to come more in line as other deals catch up with it. Not surprising and something that was discussed a couple of years ago.

2. Trouba is probably in an ideal situation to succeed this season playing behind Fox and potentially with someone like Miller. That's a positive possibility for Trouba, for the team, and for fans.

Don't we expect Lundkvist to surpass Trouba?

 

[Edge]

Don't we expect Lundkvist to surpass Trouba?

I don't think Lundkvist is going to ever get that chance here.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Don't we expect Lundkvist to surpass Trouba?

Is that happens, it won't become an issue until his ELC expires, which coincides with Trouba's NMC expiring

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don't think Lundkvist is going to ever get that chance here.

Is this supposed to be as cryptic as I'm taking it?

 

[Edge]

Is this supposed to be as cryptic as I'm taking it?

Nothing immediate. I just look at the way the roster is likely to shape up and think Lundkvist is probably a decent candidate to be moved at some point.

 

[OrlandK]

It's time to forget about Trouba's contract and be thankful that we have him as his skill set would be sorely missed if subtracted from the roster, given the rest of the defense.

And his contract is starting to seem less bad as the top tier dmen are all getting 9 mil+ per. RHD is the the most valued position now with the possible exception of center. And 28 year old Sean Couturier just signed an eight-year, $62 million contract extension. Pelech gave the Islanders a home town discount. Rangers never get that so why would Trouba have gone for it.