Player Discussion Jacob Trouba

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  1. MrPodz Registered User

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    Ok uh really hope that you guys arent trying to evaluate trouba and his season with the current defense we have. Trouba under whelmed his first season, thats okay. He carried rookie hajek who seemingly continues to not improve and then he got stuck with smith- a third pairing d. Who did dougie play with again? Graves? Trouba hits like a truck and sometimes it takes him out of play. But find me a defenseman who plays 22 minutes a game and doesnt shit the bed for less than 8 mil (discluding bargain and elcs) he got market rate and hes not supposed to put up too many points. They signed him for defense.
     
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    The biggest issue with the RHD is Marc Staal

    He's too bad to be carried. He murdered the play of every one of our good RHD this year.

    Get capable LHD and we'll see all 3 of our RHD flourish
     
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    This is true.

    Even Adam "God" Fox couldn't do it.
     
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  4. Synergy27 I only like it when it's dimed out.

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    Again. All fair points. But I feel comfortable in saying that the team needs to be doing long term assessment and long term planning. They were not in a position of “need” for Trouba, mainly because they were/are not yet ready to compete, so I don’t particularly care that every GM in the league would make the deal.

    While it is still undetermined whether or not any of those RD will ultra pan out, it is clear, and was at the time, that we likely had several very good young RD in the system. It is on the organization to be cognizant of that and try to think a few steps ahead when making moves.
     
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    I think Brodin would be a great partner for Trouba. Not old either
     
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    Fair enough. I think that on this topic, we have safely arrived at the "agree to disagree" section.
     
  7. Irishguy42 Mr. Preachy

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    Scott Mayfield's PR person called...he wants to know how Trouba did it.
     
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    Sure. If you look at plus-minus and ignore who he played with
     
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    I've spent the morning really diving into how we could have botched this so badly. Even if you toss out this season which really taints his profile, it still makes no sense. 8 million!!! Are you joking. I was going through the league and if I was generous I would say, at the time, his comparables were guys like Parayko and Dumba. 5-6 M range. Not 8. Not effing 8. And that was before this season's display. It's so disheartening. Can't get passed it. I harp on it. But it's just butt tilting. As soon as we shed one mortifying contract we can't wait to get into bed with another. Serenity now.
     
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    Parayko and Dumba are not comparables. Those were contracts signed when they were RFAs.
     
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    He might as well go all in compare Trouba to Makar, Hughes and Heiskanen at this point to show he's overpaid :laugh:
     
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    Kinda like Trouba, ya feel?
     
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    The contract Trouba signed didn't include any RFA years, or at most one RFA year, I can't remember
     
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    Trouba:

    5.5m in final year
    1 RFA year and 6 UFA years on current deal
    8m AAV

    Dumba:
    2.75m in final year
    3 RFA years and 2 UFA years in current deal
    6m AAV

    Parayko:

    925k in final year
    No arbitration rights
    3 RFA years and 2 UFA years in current deal
    5.5m AAV


    Yeah, Dumba and Parayka are kinda like Trouba, ya feel?


    Spoiler alert: They're not
     
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    I tend to agree with that.
     
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    There's a spoiler alert at the bottom ;)
     
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    lol

    Start by doubling or tripling your point production
     
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    I just wanted to quote Mr. I tend to agree with that.
     
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    Let's start with defense is a 6 man job, not just the two defensive partners. With that said, nobody has Makar near the top of their lists for shutdown defensemen.
    The point I was trying to make is that Graves is now a legitimate NHLer. He made $735K last season.
    Trouba was less than impressive last season. He is on a bloated $8m deal.
    We probably jumped the gun on signing him considering where the team is in the rebuild and the pipeline of D.
    Why not give Graves a legit shot? He might not have worked on in NY, but we will never know because he never got a chance.
     
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    Graves plays on the left. Is Graves better than Lindgren? Because he's not playing over Smith, Staal or Skjei (last season)

    Trouba's 8m is market value.
     
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    It's hard to say if he's better than Smith, Staal or Skjei, but a case can be made that he is better.

    If you consider Trouba's market value at $8m, I have a bridge to sell you.
     
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