Rumor: Jacob Trouba close to 7 Year extension with NYR. Between $7.5m - $8m per year

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tntkid

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No he doesn't. All Trouba did was operate within the terms of the CBA. No one can force a player to indefinitely play somewhere they don't want to be. He made it known years ago he didn't want to be in Winnipeg, that's on the Jets for not moving him earlier if they wanted a better return.

For the garbage return that we got we should have just kept Trouba and let him walk for free at the end of the season.

We got poached by Trouba and the Rangers.
 

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For the garbage return that we got we should have just kept Trouba and let him walk for free at the end of the season.

We got poached by Trouba and the Rangers.
We wouldn't have had the cap room for Trouba anyway.
 

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It's all a matter of preference on how you want to spend your money as a gm. Matt dumba who will score about 25 goals a year and who was head and shoulders better then trouba in playoffs 2 years ago and who is better then trouba signed last summer for 6aav x5. Would rather have dumba at 8aav then trouba. But if your going to pay 8aav for a dman you would think you would want a player that can score 15 goals a year consistently even 10. He is about a 35-45 point defenceman. I dont know are they going for 8aav now a days.
Wow you actually doubled down on this absurd take LMAO

The amount of goals a defender scores is irrelevant. NHL defenders are not paid to score goals
 

obey86

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Wow you actually doubled down on this absurd take LMAO

The amount of goals a defender scores is irrelevant. NHL defenders are not paid to score goals

It's part of what they are paid to do. Everything else being equal, a defenseman who scores 15-20 goals a year has more value than a defenseman who scores 5 goals a year. So that 15 goal defenseman would certainly deserve to be paid more because he scores more goals, compared to the 5 goal guy.
 
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Why did buff always lead in minutes played then every year. Usually top pairing guys lead in minutes played. Trouba always played less then buff. Also I doubt any team will be thrilled in giving a dman 8aav for a 7 goal a year scorer. Glad Chevy decided to give Morrissey the big money instead.
Buff is an elite number 1. Doesn't mean Trouba isn't a legit top pairing guy, just that he's worse than Byfuglien. He also handled more difficult minutes than Byfuglien (more defensive zone starts, PK vs PP).

Also goals from defensemen is a ridiculous metric and you know it. Goals are valuable but there's a lot of things you should rank ahead of that. Next you'll be arguing assists from goalies...
 

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Wow you actually doubled down on this absurd take LMAO

The amount of goals a defender scores is irrelevant. NHL defenders are not paid to score goals

I'm sure the Bruins were happy when Bobby Orr scored 46 goals, don't think goals are irrelevant in a game where you need to score more goals than your opponent.
 
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For the garbage return that we got we should have just kept Trouba and let him walk for free at the end of the season.

We got poached by Trouba and the Rangers.

Chevy's hands were tied by Trouba and his agent. Sure it's a bummer as to what transpired but there was little he could do. Hopefully Chevy won't have to deal with that agent in the future. I would stay clear of drafting any player or trading for any player that is represented by KO.
 
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Chevy's hands were tied by Trouba and his agent. Sure it's a bummer as to what transpired but there was little he could do. Hopefully Chevy won't have to deal with that agent in the future. I would stay clear of drafting any player or trading for any player that is represented by KO.
You know copp is repped by KO right
 

DRW204

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ITT: I learned matt dumba will score 25 goals a year, lucky ass wild fans
It's all a matter of preference on how you want to spend your money as a gm. Matt dumba who will score about 25 goals a year and who was head and shoulders better then trouba in playoffs 2 years ago and who is better then trouba signed last summer for 6aav x5. Would rather have dumba at 8aav then trouba. But if your going to pay 8aav for a dman you would think you would want a player that can score 15 goals a year consistently even 10. He is about a 35-45 point defenceman. I dont know are they going for 8aav now a days.
 

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I'm sure the Bruins were happy when Bobby Orr scored 46 goals, don't think goals are irrelevant in a game where you need to score more goals than your opponent.
70's are calling you back. Interesting how irrelevant goals can be for a winger then when the point of the game is to outscore your opponent. Instead you for example go through great effort to downplay them.

I don't think Trouba is a #1D right now. He is top-pairing with a strong partner and a great #3 at the very least. We really have to wait and see how the next season goes.
 

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You know copp is repped by KO right

And players represented by other agents can always become KO clients at anytime.
Trouba’s agent is doing exactly what he wants and I suspect Trouba will go to auction next year.
NYR will obviously want to sign him long term now but I’m not so sure Trouba’s side is all that interested,
The offers will most certainly go up if he waits.
 

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Wow you actually doubled down on this absurd take LMAO

The amount of goals a defender scores is irrelevant. NHL defenders are not paid to score goals

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This chart includes data from all defensemen who played at least 40 games and had a cap hit of at least $1,000,000 in the 2018-2019 season.
 

KingBogo

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For the garbage return that we got we should have just kept Trouba and let him walk for free at the end of the season.

We got poached by Trouba and the Rangers.
It is very likely Heinola ends up being a top 4 defenseman in the NHL. It will just have to wait a couple years. That is better then riding the horse off the cliff.
 

KingBogo

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You guys got at least a PP specialist 2nd/3rd pair d-man and your 1st round pick back. Would you really have preferred getting nothing?
No most Jets fans preferred to get what we could. KO poisoned the waters and tied Chevy's hands and his 1st priority was to get back in the 1st round. The Jets have done very well over the years with their 1st round selections and I fully expect Heinola to be another hit. On the flip side I think there is a fairly strong likelihood that Trouba and KO grind away at the Rangers even if that is where he wants to be. Going through 6 years of them I can see an arb hearing with a 1 year contract and Trouba still unsigned come late June 2020 as he marches to UFA status.
 
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Divine

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70's are calling you back. Interesting how irrelevant goals can be for a winger then when the point of the game is to outscore your opponent. Instead you for example go through great effort to downplay them.

I don't think Trouba is a #1D right now. He is top-pairing with a strong partner and a great #3 at the very least. We really have to wait and see how the next season goes.

I have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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No most Jets fans preferred to get what we could. KO poisoned the waters and tied Chevy's hands and his 1st priority was to get back in the 1st round. The Jets have done very well over the years with their 1st round selections and I fully expect Heinola to be another hit. On the flip side I think there is a fairly strong likelihood that Trouba and KO grind away at the Rangers even if that is where he wants to be. Going through 6 years of them I can see an arb hearing with a 1 year contract and Trouba still unsigned come late June 2020 as he marches to UFA status.

I guess we'll see, but I doubt the Rangers traded for him without a contract extension in mind.
 

KingBogo

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I guess we'll see, but I doubt the Rangers traded for him without a contract extension in mind.
I'm sure the Rangers have an extension in mind. That doesn't mean they still don't have to negotiate with Kurt Overcharge. I remember when Davidson called his negotiation tactics extortion when they were working on the Johansen deal.
 

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It is very likely Heinola ends up being a top 4 defenseman in the NHL. It will just have to wait a couple years. That is better then riding the horse off the cliff.

That's just silly to use as an excuse. If he doesn't, can we come back and say 'omg he blew it!'. Who they drafted is irrelevant, it's the overall return, not what a pick turns into. If we traded for a top 3 pick and the pick bombs, do we come back and 'say man we got hosed!'? No, you base it on what it is. The Jets got hosed and anyone trying to defend it is a homer.

Wasn't there execs that flat out said there were better deals than the Rangers offer? Didn't the Pens have a better offer? Is Chevy too nice he just wanted to make Trouba happy and send him where he wanted to go? Jets got hosed, period. Anyone saying otherwise is a blind Jets fan.
 
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KingBogo

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That's just silly to use as an excuse. If he doesn't, can we come back and say 'omg he blew it!'. Who they drafted is irrelevant, it's the overall return, not what a pick turns into. If we traded for a top 3 pick and the pick bombs, do we come back and 'say man we got hosed!'? No, you base it on what it is. The Jets got hosed and anyone trying to defend it is a homer.

Wasn't there execs that flat out said there were better deals than the Rangers offer? Didn't the Pens have a better offer? Is Chevy too nice he just wanted to make Trouba happy and send him where he wanted to go? Jets got hosed, period. Anyone saying otherwise is a blind Jets fan.
What did you expect Chevy to do once Overcharge poisoned the well with other GMs? Once KO informed Chevy that Trouba wouldn't sign with any other teams other than the Rangers his hands were tied, as no GM is going to move valuable assets for a player that doesn't want to be there going straight into the arbitration process on a 1 year path to UFA status. KO cleared the field for the Rangers and Chevy was forced to get the best deal he could or hold on to Trouba as an own rental. Getting a top 20 pick and a bit of an unknown in Pionk was what was left after other offers dried up. Or do you believe Chevy purposely turned down better offers for an inferior offer?

Penguins were not alone in making a superior offer for Trouba than the Rangers & More Buzz
 
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