JT Miller has a bomb ... Vladdy doesn't have this in his tool set at all. We could use a slapper of that caliber on PP2
Yeh I don’t get why Miller was included in the trade. It affected more than the chemistry of a line. According to Yzerman, it was NYR that brought him up and not until Monday. From their perspective, it couldn’t have been about the money because Vlady is going to ask for about the same. Age and production are similar. If they wouldn’t do the deal without moving Miller, that is a red flag. I heard he had problems with his coach. I don’t see signing Miller to $5 million plus for long term. After watching Syracuse yesterday, Joseph looks like he will be ready next year, or after him Volkov, Katchouk, Raddysh. Miller just blocks the way. He’s RFA this summer so if he doesn’t really impress, easy to move on from him and get a return.Not impressed so far, and it doesn’t help that Vladdy played a great game in New York tonight. Still it’s only one game.
Aside from faceoffs another reason I suspect Yzerman may have made that trade is that while neither player has been effective in the postseason thus far in his career, in Vladdy’s case it’s because he gets tossed around like a rag doll when teams get physical with him. He has looked a bit stronger this season so perhaps that might have changed had we kept him, but maybe Yzerman wasn’t convinced that this year would be any different and figures that Miller’s issue is easier to resolve. Hopefully he turns out to be right, but I’m still not convinced that messing with the chemistry of our top line (and I do think Vladdy should have stayed with Stamkov) was the right move to make at this point in the season. I’d love to be proven wrong though.
Scandella toe picked, lmaoHe took a dumb penalty and Names had a goal and an assist. Run him out of town already!
He took a dumb penalty and Names had a goal and an assist. Run him out of town already!
Did you read the advanced stats? Miller is better at some exits. Way better.Like I said, it’s only one game. But Vladdy’s strengths in terms of zone exits and defense match two of our team’s greatest weaknesses and team/line chemistry is important. And I have always hated talented players who underachieve due to lack of effort so I admit to being biased against Miller from the start. I’d love to be proven wrong but IMO it just seems like a spur of the moment swap that we may end up regretting.
Did you read the advanced stats? Miller is better at some exits. Way better.
Personally, I believe that yzerman was showcasing him this season on the top line, knowing he wanted to try to live him before his RFA.
but I’m gonna miss him too.
Not impressed so far, and it doesn’t help that Vladdy played a great game in New York tonight. Still it’s only one game.
Aside from faceoffs another reason I suspect Yzerman may have made that trade is that while neither player has been effective in the postseason thus far in his career, in Vladdy’s case it’s because he gets tossed around like a rag doll when teams get physical with him. He has looked a bit stronger this season so perhaps that might have changed had we kept him, but maybe Yzerman wasn’t convinced that this year would be any different and figures that Miller’s issue is easier to resolve. Hopefully he turns out to be right, but I’m still not convinced that messing with the chemistry of our top line (and I do think Vladdy should have stayed with Stamkov) was the right move to make at this point in the season. I’d love to be proven wrong though.
I did. IIRC Vladdy was at something like 87% on zone exits while Miller was at 57%. In which numbers was Miller better?
I don’t think we were going to keep Vlad beyond this season anyway - like I mentioned in another thread he’s the sort of complementary player that you don’t want to lock up too much money and term with when you have so many better players who will need to be paid. I just question the wisdom of trading him now and for Miller.
Lack of consistent effort, penchant for dumb penalties and turnovers, tends to be too pass-first and tries to make the pretty play rather than the smart one...don’t we already have enough of those traits on our team? Vladdy has his flaws too but I think he did a lot more for us than people gave him credit for and while he was certainly expendable for the right trade I’m just not convinced swapping him for Miller was it.
I did. IIRC Vladdy was at something like 87% on zone exits while Miller was at 57%. In which numbers was Miller better?
I don’t think we were going to keep Vlad beyond this season anyway - like I mentioned in another thread he’s the sort of complementary player that you don’t want to lock up too much money and term with when you have so many better players who will need to be paid. I just question the wisdom of trading him now and for Miller.
Lack of consistent effort, penchant for dumb penalties and turnovers, tends to be too pass-first and tries to make the pretty play rather than the smart one...don’t we already have enough of those traits on our team? Vladdy has his flaws too but I think he did a lot more for us than people gave him credit for and while he was certainly expendable for the right trade I’m just not convinced swapping him for Miller was it.
Is it a thing between Ranger fans to start talking **** about your players once they leave the team? I've seen so many of their fans saying Girardi, Miller and even McDonagh will be disappointments for us. Maybe I've just seen the wrong people's posts, I don't know.
That’s just a New York thing.Is it a thing between Ranger fans to start talking **** about your players once they leave the team? I've seen so many of their fans saying Girardi, Miller and even McDonagh will be disappointments for us. Maybe I've just seen the wrong people's posts, I don't know.