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[Spooner st]

Bars, Strip Clubs and Churches: U.S. Virus Outbreaks Enter Unwieldy Phase

In Baton Rouge, La., at least 100 people tested positive for the virus after visiting bars in the Tigerland nightlife district, popular among Louisiana State University students.

At a Christian summer camp near Colorado Springs, at least 11 employees fell ill just before the season’s opening, leading the camp to cancel overnight stays for the first time in 63 years.

And in Las Vegas, just weeks after casinos reopened, a handful of employees from casinos, restaurants and hotels have tested positive, and frightened workers on Monday begged guests to wear masks in a news conference conducted over video.

“This is exactly what most people would expect when you lift stay-at-home orders and isolation orders,” said Rebecca Christofferson, an infectious-disease expert at Louisiana State University, who said that reopening along with fatigue over social distancing for many Americans were creating new sorts of virus clusters.

“All of those things combined just make it a complex problem — human behavior, contact and virus,” she said. “You put it all in a big pot, and boom!”

 

[Alicat]

@rfournier103 It captures the Boston of 100 years ago that shaped the city for generations.

What is now called the Red Line opened in 1912 and connected Harvard Sq in Cambridge with Park Street and much to the horror of the Harvard people that funded it was extended to South Boston in 1917 (Dorchester would come a decade later)

But the subway went to South Boston to make people forget a horrific tragedy in 1916 that politicians and media tried to erase.

Summer Street Bridge disaster - Wikipedia.

On This Day In 1916, The Unthinkable Happened In Massachusetts

@Alicat were you aware of this as I know you are a student of Boston history.

I grew up in the tail end of the Boston Irish controlling the city and inner suburbs and it all revolved around 'Lake Street' in Brighton where the Archdiocese of Boston built a palace. Life for most families revolved around their parish and it stretched from Newton to Dorchester.

I vaguely remember hearing about it growing up but it wasn't taught in school. The Molasses flood was covered briefly.

Good old Lake Street. I can confirm that life most certainly revolved the church growing up. You went to catholic school until 6th grade and then you'd take the Latin exam and if you got in, you went from 7-12th grade. If you didn't get in, you stayed in parish school until 8th grade and then went to an all girls catholic high school.

 

[sooshii]

Had a colonoscopy Friday. The prep and starvation 30 hours previous to the procedure were worse, at least for the scope I was put under anesthesia & it turned out to be the best sleep I've had in years. The doc found a small growth at the top of the colon & removed it for a biopsy, I have not heard from the hospital so I'm sure it is OK. He also discovered I have diverticulosis which means it could turn into diverticulitis so he wants me to try a high fiber diet or take something like Metamucil.

Afterwards my sister & I went to the 99 for lunch. The steak tips are awesome there!

 

[Eddie Munson]

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[rfournier103]

You spelled Ted Williams wrong though...

LOL!!!

I’ve had this debate with my father-in-law more than a couple of times.

 

[Spooner st]

Unbelievable.

 

[LSCII]

LOL!!!

I’ve had this debate with my father-in-law more than a couple of times.

Babe Ruth was clearly a man among boys when he played. Not even a question. But let's not pretend he had to face the same kind of competition that Williams did. From the advancement of pitches alone it's not even a debate. You factor in that Ruth only played against a segregated pool of players and he wasn't even facing the best talent. And it also isn't even looking at Williams leaving baseball for 3 seasons during his prime to fly a fighter plane in WW2.

 

[BMC]

Thanks @sooshii !

 

[LSCII]

Had a colonoscopy Friday. The prep and starvation 30 hours previous to the procedure were worse, at least for the scope I was put under anesthesia & it turned out to be the best sleep I've had in years. The doc found a small growth at the top of the colon & removed it for a biopsy, I have not heard from the hospital so I'm sure it is OK. He also discovered I have diverticulosis which means it could turn into diverticulitis so he wants me to try a high fiber diet or take something like Metamucil.

Afterwards my sister & I went to the 99 for lunch. The steak tips are awesome there!

I love them as well (the steak tip/boneless wing combo platter is my go to for there), but can we talk about the elephant in the 99's dining room for a second? No matter what temperature you ask for the steak tips to be cooked at, you will get them medium well. No questions asked. Literally every time. It makes me laugh my ass off that they even bother asking at this point.

 

[Bruinaura]

Apparently the bubble gum they used during my apartment renovation isn't a long-lasting adhesive.

 

[Alicat]

Apparently the bubble gum they used during my apartment renovation isn't a long-lasting adhesive.

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That is disgusting. I hope it gets fixed the right way.

I just got a new air conditioner this morning. The maintenance guy took the cover off my old one and said I'll be back with a new one.

 

[rfournier103]

Babe Ruth was clearly a man among boys when he played. Not even a question. But let's not pretend he had to face the same kind of competition that Williams did. From the advancement of pitches alone it's not even a debate. You factor in that Ruth only played against a segregated pool of players and he wasn't even facing the best talent. And it also isn't even looking at Williams leaving baseball for 3 seasons during his prime to fly a fighter plane in WW2.

I guess you’re in the same camp as my father-in-law.

It’s very hard to compare across eras due to segregation and a limited talent pool. Unfortunately, that’s how sports were then. I see arguments like this all the time on the main hockey boards when they say that Orr and Gretzky wouldn’t be as great today because of expansion watering down the talent pool back then; European talent was mostly absent from the NHL; and larger goalie pads today. It is what it is.

True that Ruth never played against Black and Latin players, but the American League wasn’t exactly bursting at the seams with them either between 1939 and 1960. Williams never saw a non-white player on the diamond until 1947 - his sixth season in a Red Sox uniform.

As far as Williams’s military service is concerned, I figure that the only fair way to compare is using “average” statistics that only take into account games played - and usually favor the shorter career - versus “compilation” stats that favor longer careers.

Ted Williams’s career BA is .344 over 19 seasons, versus Ruth’s career .342 average over 22 seasons in the Majors. Both men in the Top 10 all-time.

Williams hit a home run every 14.8 at-bats. Ruth every 11.8 at-bats. Both players were staggering in this respect, but only Mark McGuire has a higher HR/AB average than Ruth.

Williams and Ruth rank 1 and 2 all-time in OBP. Williams has .4817 and Ruth at .4739.

In another all-time first and second place finish, Ruth had a career .6897 slugging percentage, and Williams had .6338. Amazing.

All-time career OPS is not surprisingly 1 and 2 again. Ruth with 1.1636 and Williams had 1.1155. Again, staggering numbers.

There are many other stats I could cite, but I’m actually running out of time. I will say this: I’ve never delved this far into this debate because my father-in-law usually gets furious with me and walks away before we get this far. Ruth and Williams are 1 and 2 in A LOT of major “average” statistics.

I’d be lying if I said that my respect for Ted Williams hasn’t grown appreciably today. Unfortunately, sometimes I have a bias against Red Sox players who toiled in the Dark Ages between 1919 and 2003 with only a lousy four AL pennants and four Game 7 losses to show for their efforts. It’s one of my many faults, and I try to overcome it.

Lastly, what makes Ruth such a titan in my opinion is that he was ALSO an AMAZING pitcher. His Red Sox World Series pitching record is brilliant!

3-0 Record.
0.87 ERA.
3 Games total.
3 Games Started.
2 Complete Games.
1 Shutout.
31 Innings Pitched.
19 Hits Allowed.
3 Runs Allowed (all earned).
10 Walks.

Only three earned runs in 31 innings??? In the World Series??? Are you kidding???

Ruth is 17th all-time in career ERA with a 2.277 ERA, and has a career record of 94-46. He left his brilliant pitching career behind to become the most fearsome hitter of his or any age. Like if Patrick Roy decided after the 1993 Stanley Cup Final that he was going to move to center from goaltender and then became better than Wayne Gretzky.

As a last little tidbit, I actually stumbled across Ted Williams’s career pitching record. I had no idea he was ever on the mound even once! In two innings of relief, Ted Williams allowed three hits and one earned run. He struck out one batter and finished the game with a 4.50 ERA. Impressive for a man who detested pitchers!

 

[LSCII]

I guess you’re in the same camp as my father-in-law.

It’s very hard to compare across eras due to segregation and a limited talent pool. Unfortunately, that’s how sports were then. I see arguments like this all the time on the main hockey boards when they say that Orr and Gretzky wouldn’t be as great today because of expansion watering down the talent pool back then; European talent was mostly absent from the NHL; and larger goalie pads today. It is what it is.

True that Ruth never played against Black and Latin players, but the American League wasn’t exactly bursting at the seams with them either between 1939 and 1960. Williams never saw a non-white player on the diamond until 1947 - his sixth season in a Red Sox uniform.

As far as Williams’s military service is concerned, I figure that the only fair way to compare is using “average” statistics that only take into account games played - and usually favor the shorter career - versus “compilation” stats that favor longer careers.

Ted Williams’s career BA is .344 over 19 seasons, versus Ruth’s career .342 average over 22 seasons in the Majors. Both men in the Top 10 all-time.

Williams hit a home run every 14.8 at-bats. Ruth every 11.8 at-bats. Both players were staggering in this respect, but only Mark McGuire has a higher HR/AB average than Ruth.

Williams and Ruth rank 1 and 2 all-time in OBP. Williams has .4817 and Ruth at .4739.

In another all-time first and second place finish, Ruth had a career .6897 slugging percentage, and Williams had .6338. Amazing.

All-time career OPS is not surprisingly 1 and 2 again. Ruth with 1.1636 and Williams had 1.1155. Again, staggering numbers.

There are many other stats I could cite, but I’m actually running out of time. I will say this: I’ve never delved this far into this debate because my father-in-law usually gets furious with me and walks away before we get this far. Ruth and Williams are 1 and 2 in A LOT of major “average” statistics.

I’d be lying if I said that my respect for Ted Williams hasn’t grown appreciably today. Unfortunately, sometimes I have a bias against Red Sox players who toiled in the Dark Ages between 1919 and 2003 with only a lousy four AL pennants and four Game 7 losses to show for their efforts. It’s one of my many faults, and I try to overcome it.

Lastly, what makes Ruth such a titan in my opinion is that he was an AMAZING pitcher. His Red Sox World Series pitching record is brilliant!

3-0 Record.
0.87 ERA.
3 Games total.
3 Games Started.
2 Complete Games.
1 Shutout.
31 Innings Pitched.
19 Hits Allowed.
3 Runs Allowed (all earned).
10 Walks.

Only three earned runs in 31 innings??? In the World Series??? Are you kidding???

Ruth is 17th all-time in career ERA with a 2.277 ERA, and has a career record of 94-46. He left his brilliant pitching career behind to become the most fearsome hitter of his or any age. Like if Patrick Roy decided after the 1993 Stanley Cup Final that he was going to move to center from goaltender and then became better than Wayne Gretzky.

As a last little tidbit, I actually stumbled across Ted Williams’s career pitching record. I had no idea he was ever on the mound even once! In two innings of relief, Ted Williams allowed three hits and one earned run. He struck out one batter and finished the game with a 4.50 ERA. Impressive for a man who detested pitchers!

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In reality, its next to impossible to fairly compare players from different generations. In terms of Williams not seeing integrated teams uni 47, that is true. While it may have been his 7th season in the league, he wasn't actually playing before then since he'd taken the previous 3 years off due to the war before returning to play in 46. He then played 14 more seasons after, in an integrated league.

If I were being completely honest, and I'm sure I'll get killed for even saying this, if push came to shove and I needed a player to bat in the bottom of the 9th, trailing by 2, with a runners on the corners, I'd take David Ortiz. I think given the World Series titles, along with the clutch moments at big times in his career, he's the guy I'd take.

But in terms of Williams vs Ruth, I take Teddy all day long.

 

[BMC]

I love them as well (the steak tip/boneless wing combo platter is my go to for there), but can we talk about the elephant in the 99's dining room for a second? No matter what temperature you ask for the steak tips to be cooked at, you will get them medium well. No questions asked. Literally every time. It makes me laugh my ass off that they even bother asking at this point.

The waitress asked me how I wanted them cooked and I said medium well. And that's what I got!!! Which is rare (see what I did there? ) Most places don't even ask anymore, they're afraid if someone orders it cooked rare and then gets sick well you know what happens next.

 

[jgatie]

In reality, its next to impossible to fairly compare players from different generations. In terms of Williams not seeing integrated teams uni 47, that is true. While it may have been his 7th season in the league, he wasn't actually playing before then since he'd taken the previous 3 years off due to the war before returning to play in 46. He then played 14 more seasons after, in an integrated league.

If I were being completely honest, and I'm sure I'll get killed for even saying this, if push came to shove and I needed a player to bat in the bottom of the 9th, trailing by 2, with a runners on the corners, I'd take David Ortiz. I think given the World Series titles, along with the clutch moments at big times in his career, he's the guy I'd take.

But in terms of Williams vs Ruth, I take Teddy all day long.

Ditto. David Ortiz is far and away the greatest clutch hitter who ever lived. That is both via eye test, and stats. No player in history has more than 2 playoff walk off homeruns in their career. Ortiz had 2 in one year.

 

[CHRDANHUTCH]

MAINE CDC COVID Update:

23 new cases; holding at 102 deaths

 

[rfournier103]

In reality, its next to impossible to fairly compare players from different generations. In terms of Williams not seeing integrated teams uni 47, that is true. While it may have been his 7th season in the league, he wasn't actually playing before then since he'd taken the previous 3 years off due to the war before returning to play in 46. He then played 14 more seasons after, in an integrated league.

Ted Williams played full seasons in 1939 (149 games); 1940 (144 games); 1941 (143 games); and 1942 (150 games). Williams also played 150 games in 1946. So, yes, he was playing before then. I may have misunderstood the point you were trying to make, but I assure you that I never counted the 1943-'45 seasons in any point I was trying to make.

If I were being completely honest, and I'm sure I'll get killed for even saying this, if push came to shove and I needed a player to bat in the bottom of the 9th, trailing by 2, with a runners on the corners, I'd take David Ortiz. I think given the World Series titles, along with the clutch moments at big times in his career, he's the guy I'd take.

I will go to the mat and back you up 1000% on this.

Every Red Sox fan on earth owes a massive debt of gratitude to David Ortiz. His role in getting the loser-stench out of Fenway Park can NOT be overstated. Where would the Red Sox be today without him? Winning breeds winning just like losing breeds losing, and it's possible we could be sitting on 102 years without a title if not for Ortiz.

But in terms of Williams vs Ruth, I take Teddy all day long.

That is certainly your right as a fan. I'm going to assume that like myself, you've never seen either play a single game. All we can go on are old video clips and what we read. I will say this - our little dialogue has been pretty fun for me, and I appreciate your part in it. Discussions like this are why I come here, and if you agreed with me, this wouldn't have been nearly as fun or rewarding. Thank you.

 

[LSCII]

Ted Williams played full seasons in 1939 (149 games); 1940 (144 games); 1941 (143 games); and 1942 (150 games). Williams also played 150 games in 1946. So, yes, he was playing before then. I may have misunderstood the point you were trying to make, but I assure you that I never counted the 1943-'45 seasons in any point I was trying to make.



I will go to the mat and back you up 1000% on this.

Every Red Sox fan on earth owes a massive debt of gratitude to David Ortiz. His role in getting the loser-stench out of Fenway Park can NOT be overstated. Where would the Red Sox be today without him? Winning breeds winning just like losing breeds losing, and it's possible we could be sitting on 102 years without a title if not for Ortiz.



That is certainly your right as a fan. I'm going to assume that like myself, you've never seen either play a single game. All we can go on are old video clips and what we read. I will say this - our little dialogue has been pretty fun for me, and I appreciate your part in it. Discussions like this are why I come here, and if you agreed with me, this wouldn't have been nearly as fun or rewarding. Thank you.

Yep, never saw them aside from clips. Just going with the eyewitness accounts on both by my dad and the advancements made in the game from when Ruth played to when Williams played. Which I admit is not a fair thing to do because it's an unknown if Ruth could hit offs peed stuff since it wasn't really used back then. Maybe he could and he'd have even better numbers? I don't know.

But absolutely go with Papi every day of the week.

 

[Fenway]

I vaguely remember hearing about it growing up but it wasn't taught in school. The Molasses flood was covered briefly.

Good old Lake Street. I can confirm that life most certainly revolved the church growing up. You went to catholic school until 6th grade and then you'd take the Latin exam and if you got in, you went from 7-12th grade. If you didn't get in, you stayed in parish school until 8th grade and then went to an all girls catholic high school.

Boston 100 years ago was run by Cardinal O'Connell and Joe Kennedy, Sr fled to New York to get away from him. O'Connell made sure he had the biggest mansion in the city.

Richard Cushing took over as Archbishop after O'Connell died but his rival in New York ( Francis Spellman) blocked him from being made a Cardinal for 12 years - curiously both Spellman and Cushing were trained by O'Connell. Cushing finally became a Cardinal in 1958 when Joesph Kennedy lobbied the Vatican.

 

[LSCII]

Today is going by like f***ing beach time.

 

[Fenway]

 

[Deleted]

My missus convinced me to start watching ER from the start with her. I don't mind, I'm actually quite enjoying it and it'll help pass away the summer.
This caught us completely of guard though. Doug Ross loves Irish hurling!!!



I'd love to know how such an obscure reference to hurling made it into ER?
Maybe they had an Irish writer on the staff at the time or maybe Clooney was looking into his Irish heritage and decided to throw it in.
I guess I'll never know.

 

[Kate08]

Cheers to today being over

 

[Kate08]

Upgraded the paint and couches in the living room. Pretty pleased with the results. Now need to find some (adult-like) shit for the walls

 

[Bruinaura]

My missus convinced me to start watching ER from the start with her. I don't mind, I'm actually quite enjoying it and it'll help pass away the summer.
This caught us completely of guard though. Doug Ross loves Irish hurling!!!



I'd love to know how such an obscure reference to hurling made it into ER?
Maybe they had an Irish writer on the staff at the time or maybe Clooney was looking into his Irish heritage and decided to throw it in.
I guess I'll never know.

Have you seen ER before, or is this the first time you're watching it?

I remember one episode they actually did live, and you could tell because the doctors were watching the Cubs game and you could put it on another TV and watch along with them.

I don't know the answer to the hurling reference. However, when I think "George Clooney" and "obscure" I present to you this clip from when he drives what appears to be the evil twin of the Dukes' General Lee in this painfully 80s episode of Street Hawk.

The 80s, what a time for television. You had super cars, super helicopters, super motorcycles, and all the bad guys drove Jeeps and were played by the same three actors in every action drama during the decade.