Post-Game Talk: It's Bennys Fault. We Lost. Jets 7 - Flyers 1

[Garbage Goal]

Actually looking forward to a Monday for once. Will wake up, look at bleacher report, and will see that Hak has been fired

Happy Monday, welcome to hell. Dave Hakstol will be your guide and send all your complaints, which will go ignored, to thy overlord Paul Holmgren.

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

That is the Flyers season in a nutshell. Getting slapped around, either by the opposing team or the coach. Standing up to do something and then face planting with nothing to show for it.

 

[David St Hubbins]

And....Neuvirth with the under (30 minutes)! At least the only thing he re-injured today was his reputation as a professional goalie. Go ahead Hakstool....play him again.

I dont have an issue with Hak playing Neuvy. @ns half of a back to back, Stolie still coming new in there, etc. But AS for the rest. I dont have words. Sure, Hellybuk stood on his head for the first 5 minutes,but the rest of the game as absolute shit.

 

[David St Hubbins]

My wife just said “ why don’t you become a Penguins fan?”” You would sleep better.”

 

[David St Hubbins]

Confusion says...…" I don't know wtf I'm doing."

 

[bennysflyers16]

they shoulda called a taxi for him after this game.

I would of gladly drove him home to the farm.

Look at what Hitch is doing as an interim coach.

 

[hatcher]

Flyers are terrible with no compete. If the game is played like practice we win but when the big boys compete like CLB and Jets we have no chance. DO we have a good players next to G? HAHAHAHAHAHA disgrace.

 

[bennysflyers16]

If you don’t think G , TK , Couts and Sanheim are awesome, you are blatantly trolling.

 

[kudymen]

All those baits I am taking... I am so weak.

 

[Beef Invictus]

At a Flyers game this is responsible drinking. How can anyone dare to drink less?

 

[Danko]

At a Flyers game this is responsible drinking. How can anyone dare to drink less?

I thought the guy in black was Tim Panotch at first.

Fire Fletcher?

 

[Fight4yourRight]

At this point, I don't know whether to laugh or cry that we still employ a clueless college coach who never won anything even at the college level, more aptly fitting the bill as a high school coach, a PK coach who is apparently only still employed because he took a slapshot to the face, and several players taking regular shifts who wouldn't get invited to 30 other NHL training camps.
But if all this pain means us getting Coach Q as a late Christmas gift, bring on more of the same.

 

[deadhead]

A lot of nonsense as usual.
Flyers dominated the 1st period, were down 2-0 due to two soft goals.
Get back to 2-1, another soft goal, gee, a team that traveled a 1,000 miles on a back to back deflated at that point.

You've see this again and again, it's not "fragile confidence," they've managed to come back a few times this year, but when your goalies dig you a deep hole to start a game, no team is going to come storming back every night, especially when they're more of a defensive, forechecking team than a high powered offense. It takes a lot of luck as well as drive to overcome 2-3 goal deficits on a regular basis.

It's the goalies stupid, put any HC in there, and as long as the Flyers have to roll out BAD (not mediocre, but downright putrid) goalies, they're going to struggle. Look at St Louis, they have more talent than the Flyers (Thomas and Kyrou struggle to find PT) and they're struggling just like the Flyers.

Look at the heat map, tell me which team dominated the game:

Which is why firing Hakstol and waiving Lehtera, MacDonald, etc. would make no difference, bring the kids up from LHV and they'll struggle even more. Flyers are among the leaders in FEWEST scoring chances allowed, so a new coach isn't going to suddenly make them a great defensive team.

What will turn the season around is getting Elliott healthy, rotating him with Stolarz, and hoping we can get decent goaltending every night.

Though someone should tell Wilson not to pair Hagg with Gudas, that really exposes Gudas' lack of speed.

 

[Beef Invictus]

A lot of nonsense as usual.
Flyers dominated the 1st period, were down 2-0 due to two soft goals.
Get back to 2-1, another soft goal, gee, a team that traveled a 1,000 miles on a back to back deflated at that point.

You've see this again and again, it's not "fragile confidence," they've managed to come back a few times this year, but when your goalies dig you a deep hole to start a game, no team is going to come storming back every night, especially when they're more of a defensive, forechecking team than a high powered offense. It takes a lot of luck as well as drive to overcome 2-3 goal deficits on a regular basis.

It's the goalies stupid, put any HC in there, and as long as the Flyers have to roll out BAD (not mediocre, but downright putrid) goalies, they're going to struggle. Look at St Louis, they have more talent than the Flyers (Thomas and Kyrou struggle to find PT) and they're struggling just like the Flyers.

Look at the heat map, tell me which team dominated the game:

Which is why firing Hakstol and waiving Lehtera, MacDonald, etc. would make no difference, bring the kids up from LHV and they'll struggle even more. Flyers are among the leaders in FEWEST scoring chances allowed, so a new coach isn't going to suddenly make them a great defensive team.

What will turn the season around is getting Elliott healthy, rotating him with Stolarz, and hoping we can get decent goaltending every night.

Though someone should tell Wilson not to pair Hagg with Gudas, that really exposes Gudas' lack of speed.

Look at how one team lives on the perimeter. That is Hakstol. That's why be must be fired before any change is made because there is no roster he won't guide to annual embarrassment.

Do you not think there is a single coach, anywhere, who is superior to Hakstol?

 

[Rebels57]

Look at how one team lives on the perimeter. That is Hakstol. That's why be must be fired before any change is made because there is no roster he won't guide to annual embarrassment.

Yup. Ideally they fire Hakstol and whoever the new coach is brings a fresh approach. Then you wait 10 games or so to see who fits in with that approach before looking to make a big trade.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yup. Ideally they fire Hakstol and whoever the new coach is brings a fresh approach. Then you wait 10 games or so to see who fits in with that approach before looking to make a big trade.

Unfortunately it takes a while for a new system to really be implemented.

Which is why this needed to happen long ago so we could have time to get any needed trades in before the deadline, and ideally before prices skyrocket.

Hakstol is a cancer rotting this team to death.

 

[Rebels57]

Unfortunately it takes a while for a new system to really be implemented.

Which is why this needed to happen long ago so we could have time to get any needed trades in before the deadline, and ideally before prices skyrocket.

Hakstol is a cancer rotting this team to death.

It still blows my f***ing mind that Hextall couldnt see any of this.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

A lot of nonsense as usual.
Flyers dominated the 1st period, were down 2-0 due to two soft goals.
Get back to 2-1, another soft goal, gee, a team that traveled a 1,000 miles on a back to back deflated at that point.

You've see this again and again, it's not "fragile confidence," they've managed to come back a few times this year, but when your goalies dig you a deep hole to start a game, no team is going to come storming back every night, especially when they're more of a defensive, forechecking team than a high powered offense. It takes a lot of luck as well as drive to overcome 2-3 goal deficits on a regular basis.

It's the goalies stupid, put any HC in there, and as long as the Flyers have to roll out BAD (not mediocre, but downright putrid) goalies, they're going to struggle. Look at St Louis, they have more talent than the Flyers (Thomas and Kyrou struggle to find PT) and they're struggling just like the Flyers.

Look at the heat map, tell me which team dominated the game:

Which is why firing Hakstol and waiving Lehtera, MacDonald, etc. would make no difference, bring the kids up from LHV and they'll struggle even more. Flyers are among the leaders in FEWEST scoring chances allowed, so a new coach isn't going to suddenly make them a great defensive team.

What will turn the season around is getting Elliott healthy, rotating him with Stolarz, and hoping we can get decent goaltending every night.

Though someone should tell Wilson not to pair Hagg with Gudas, that really exposes Gudas' lack of speed.

But that's the point though, isn't it? If we accept that this team isn't ready to compete for the playoffs, why are we consistently rotating the same (McD, Lehtera, Weise) etc, when there are young guys raring to go, and whose development requires playing time? Instead, this coach routinely benches or demotes these same guys, and crushes any kind of confidence they may have had. He himself admitted to being a poor communicator. Most notably though, he has had 4 YEARS to change that approach and to improve. Instead, this team is seemingly getting worse. How can you defend his position with those kinds of results? You really should re-consider who you are calling stupid.

 

[Rebels57]

But that's the point though, isn't it? If we accept that this team isn't ready to compete for the playoffs, why are we consistently rotating the same (McD, Lehtera, Weise) etc, when there are young guys raring to go, and whose development requires playing time? Instead, this coach routinely benches or demotes these same guys, and crushes any kind of confidence they may have had. He himself admitted to being a poor communicator. Most notably though, he has had 4 YEARS to change that approach and to improve. Instead, this team is seemingly getting worse. How can you defend his position with those kinds of results? You really should re-consider who you are calling stupid.

BINGO!

 

[BringBackHakstol]

This team definitely have an evil aura

 

[deadhead]

No team gives up the playoff chase this early in the season, especially when a turnaround is a real possibility.
Next back to back is Vancouver, Elliott should be ready by then, and Stolarz with a day or two of rest so far has looked good.
So if I'm Fletcher, I'll refrain from taking major action until I see this pair the next few weeks, and whether they can stabilize the team.

As far as changing coaches, all I read here are wet dream fantasies (Q), or "just change it" which means Gordon or Knob.
So what's the rush?
You know you'll hate Gordon more than Hakstol, and no one knows if Knob can coach in the NHL, or whether the veterans will even take him seriously.

 

[deadhead]

Look at how one team lives on the perimeter. That is Hakstol. That's why be must be fired before any change is made because there is no roster he won't guide to annual embarrassment.

Do you not think there is a single coach, anywhere, who is superior to Hakstol?

See an eye doctor.
Those charts are identical.
So much for "living on the perimeter."

 

[Beef Invictus]

See an eye doctor.
Those charts are identical.
So much for "living on the perimeter."

Do I need to define identical to you?

 

[Oskar Man]

You fire the coaches before the players. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

[CSKA1974]

My wife just said “ why don’t you become a Penguins fan?”” You would sleep better.”