ISS Top-30, April 2011

[Tormentor]

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1. RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS C 6'0 170 L Apr. 12/93 Red Deer WHL
2. ADAM LARSSON D 6'3 200 R Nov. 12/92 Skelleftea SweE
3. SEAN COUTURIER C 6'4 195 L Dec. 12/92 Drummondville QMJHL
4. GABRIEL LANDESKOG LW 6'0 207 L Nov. 23/92 Kitchener OHL
5. DOUGLAS HAMILTON D 6'4 193 R Jun. 17/93 Niagara OHL
6. RYAN MURPHY D 5'10 176 R Mar. 31/93 Kitchener OHL
7. RYAN STROME C 6'0 183 R Jul. 11/93 Niagara OHL
8. JONATHAN HUBERDEAU C 6'1 168 L Jun. 4/93 Saint John QMHL
9. MIKA ZIBANEJAD C 6'0 183 R Apr. 18/93 Djurgarden SJ18A
10. JOEL ARMIA RW 6'3 191 R May 31/93 Assat FinE
11. DUNCAN SIEMENS D 6'3 197 L Sept. 7/93 Saskatoon WHL
12. SVEN BARTSCHI LW 5'11 175 L Oct. 5/92 Portland WHL
13. NATHAN BEAULIEU D 6'1 185 L Dec. 5/92 Saint John QMJHL
14. MARK MCNEILL C 6'1 204 R Feb. 22/93 Prince Albert WHL
15. JAMIE OLEKSIAK D 6'7 244 L Dec. 21/92 Northeastern H.E.
16. NICKLAS JENSEN F 6'2 188 L Mar. 6/93 Oshawa OHL
17. TYLER BIGGS RW 6'2 210 R Apr. 30/93 USA Under-18 USHL
18. ALEXANDR KHOKHLACHEV F 5'10 188 L Sept. 9/93 Windsor OHL
19. BRANDON SAAD LW 6'1 208 L Oct. 27/92 Saginaw OHL
20. VICTOR RASK C 6'1 194 L Mar. 1/93 Leksands SweAI
21. DAVID MUSIL D 6'3 200 L Apr. 9/93 Vancouver WHL
22. DANIEL CATENACCI C 5'9 176 L Mar. 9/93 Sault Ste. Marie OHL
23. TY RATTIE LW 5'11 170 R Feb. 5/93 Portland WHL
24. DMITRI JASKIN RW 6'2 196 L Mar. 23/93 Slavia CzeJr
25. ROCCO GRIMALDI C 5'6 163 R Feb. 8/93 USA Under-18 USHL
26. OSCAR KLEFBOM D 6'3 196 L July 20/93 Farjestad SweE
27. MATTHEW PUEMPEL LW 6'0 198 L Jan. 24/93 Peterborough OHL
28. ZACK PHILLIPS C 6'1 181 R Oct 28/92 Saint John QMJHL
29. MARK SCHEIFELE C 6'1 177 R Mar. 15/93 Barrie OHL
30. JONAS BRODIN D 6'1 165 L Jul. 12/93 Farjestad SweE

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[Tormentor]

Development of the ranking

Name|#Aug|#Sep|#Oct|#Nov|#Dec|#Jan|#Feb|#Mar|#Apr
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins|6|2|2|2|2|2|1|1|1|
Adam Larsson|2|3|3|3|3|1|2|2|2|
Sean Couturier|1|1|1|1|1|4|4|4|3|
Gabriel Landeskog|11|6|6|4|4|3|3|3|4|
Douglas Hamilton|-|10|10|11|11|8|9|7|5|
Ryan Murphy|8|9|4|5|6|6|5|5|6|
Ryan Strome|-|-|-|12|9|5|7|6|7|
Jonathan Huberdeau|-|-|-|-|-|19|13|9|8|
Mika Zibanejad|30|-|-|-|-|-|27|14|9|
Joel Armia|17|19|15|6|7|11|12|13|10|
Duncan Siemens|10|11|11|8|8|7|8|10|11|
Sven Bärtschi|-|-|-|-|26|24|26|21|12|
Nathan Beaulieu|27|-|-|-|-|-|-|23|13|
Mark McNeill|-|-|-|27|15|16|20|15|14|
Jamie Oleksiak|-|-|-|-|-|-|25|19|15|
Niclas Jensen|22|-|-|-|-|10|10|11|16|
Tyler Biggs|28|30|-|-|28|12|6|8|17|
Alexander Khokhlachev|-|21|13|18|14|15|14|16|18|
Brandon Saad|7|7|7|9|5|9|11|12|19|
Victor Rask|3|5|5|7|10|14|24|28|20|
David Musil|4|4|9|14|13|13|15|17|21|
Daniel Catenacci|23|23|24|-|29|29|17|20|22|
Ty Rattie|19|-|-|25|30|20|21|22|23|
Dmitrij Jaskin|-|-|29|19|16|17|19|24|24|
Rocco Grimaldi|-|-|30|30|23|25|16|18|25|
Oscar Klefbom|-|13|16|-|-|-|-|-|26|
Matthew Puempel|12|8|8|10|12|18|28|30|27|
Zack Phillips|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|28|
Mark Scheifele|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|29|
Jonas Brodin|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|30|
Myles Bell|-|-|23|15|17|23|18|25|-|
Colin Jacobs|-|-|-|26|27|28|22|26|-|
Scott Mayfield|-|-|-|22|21|22|23|27|-|
Joachim Nermark|29|24|26|-|-|-|-|29|-|
Nick Shore|13|-|-|-|-|-|29|-|-|
Tomas Jurco|14|14|14|17|22|26|30|-|-|
Vladislav Namestnikov|9|20|21|20|19|21|-|-|-|
Matthew Nieto|18|22|22|21|20|27|-|-|-|
Rickard Rakell|-|-|-|-|-|30|-|-|-|
Robbie Russo|25|-|25|13|18|-|-|-|-|
Maxim Shalunov|-|16|18|24|24|-|-|-|-|
Shane McColgan|15|17|19|23|25|-|-|-|-|
Seth Ambroz|5|12|12|16|-|-|-|-|-|
Patrick Koudys|-|29|28|28|-|-|-|-|-|
Adam Clendening|21|15|17|29|-|-|-|-|-|
Boone Jenner|16|18|20|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Connor Murphy|-|26|27|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Brett Ritchie|-|25|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Scott Harrington|-|27|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Alan Quine|-|28|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Michael St. Croix|20|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Garrett Meurs|24|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|
Anton Zlobin|26|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|

 

[Madic]

^ Cheers.

Insane that they have Puempel flirting with the second round. He won't last out the top 15 or 16, with good reason, and it's mind boggling that ISS and CSS are so out to lunch.

 

[Mathletic]

great, I agree with most of it

^ Cheers.

Insane that they have Puempel flirting with the second round. He won't last out the top 15 or 16, with good reason, and it's mind boggling that ISS and CSS are so out to lunch.

I agree with them. For me Puempel is another Schremp, O'Sullivan kinda guy. He may have all the skills in the world, but I don't see it translate to the NHL.

 

[boredmale]

Well somebody doesn't love Huberdeau as much as others. that being said it seems like 8 guys stand out in some order on all lists, then there is a group of 2-3 after that

 

[McMatthews]

If this list is accurate, the Maple Leafs likely end up with at least 2 of:

Matt Puempel
Dmitri Jaskin
Mark Scheifele
Boone Jenner
Brett Ritchie
Seth Ambroz

 

[vippe]

A bit weird they dont release this ranking post the u-18 championship imo.

 

[boredmale]

A bit weird they dont release this ranking post the u-18 championship imo.

I assume they have one more list late may

 

[Tormentor]

A bit weird they dont release this ranking post the u-18 championship imo.

Yep, it seems that they have a habit of releasing their report/ranking halfway through the month, no matter what.

They have made some big changes to their ranking as of late, for example it would be interesting to know what the thought process has been with Tyler Biggs. In December he was 28th, in February he was 6th, and now in April he’s 17th. Seems to be a bit of an enigma for them.

 

[vorky]

no Kucherov in top 30? Just crazy
Jurco over Kucherov? crazy

 

[Columbus Jack]

Please please please Huberdeau fall to 8th

 

[DEVILS ALL THE WAY*]

Getting Landeskog at #4 would be epic for us.

A line of Parise-Zajac-Landeskog would be hard to stop if they get the cycle going down low

 

[GM17*]

no Kucherov in top 30? Just crazy
Jurco over Kucherov? crazy

Jurco isn't even on the list.

 

[Macch]

This is going to be an exciting draft

 

[SuperSaiyanBeastmode]

I'd be shocked if huberdeau makes it past ottawa. What has rask done to be back in the 1st? Is he having a good WjcU18?

 

[YEGJuniorFan]

Victor Rask reemerges on a top 30 list...

 

[YARR123]

I wonder what the reasoning is behind Rask going up from 28 to 20. What I've understood is that his season with the leksands allsvenskan team has been over for a while, and that he's been playing u-18 playoffs, and now u-18 WJC's. Where has he had a chance to prove himself within this last month?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Yep, it seems that they have a habit of releasing their report/ranking halfway through the month, no matter what.

They have made some big changes to their ranking as of late, for example it would be interesting to know what the thought process has been with Tyler Biggs. In December he was 28th, in February he was 6th, and now in April he’s 17th. Seems to be a bit of an enigma for them.

It's the same with Grimaldi. With his benchmark ranking of 16, what has he possibly done to lower his draft stock? If anything, it should have been enhanced over the past couple of months. There's a common denominator here that creates a grain of salt of effect IMO.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

Like most services of this nature, you see the outlier rankings they used to have slowly get corrected until there isn't a huge difference in most. For instance, Huberdeau might seem high at 8 for most people, but ISS didn't even have him in their top 30 in December, and he was 19th a couple of months ago. They are basically late to the party and I expect he'll move up yet again for their final rankings. Meanwhile, you can see some of the late 1st rounders they used to have in tehir top 30 have now been dropped out, because, well, no one else had them in their top 30. Still some unique rankings, but they all do start to look more and more alike as the season goes on.

 

[YNWA14]

Pretty much the same top 8 seen everywhere, in different orders.

 

[Garl]

no Kucherov in top 30? Just crazy
Jurco over Kucherov? crazy

What's so criminal? Kucherov is VERY small one-dimensional player, with zero NA experience. You're impressed with his U18 WJC performance against teams like Germany/Slovakia? Search for names like Tony Rajala and Teemu Pulkkinen you'll be surprised how low they ended after dominant U18 WJC performances.

Jurco isn't even on the list, but even if he was, he had a rather good season and he has MUCH better frame.

 

[calcal798]

If this list is accurate, the Maple Leafs likely end up with at least 2 of:

Matt Puempel
Dmitri Jaskin
Mark Scheifele
Boone Jenner
Brett Ritchie
Seth Ambroz

You should probably add Ty Rattie to that list.

Getting Landeskog at #4 would be epic for us.

A line of Parise-Zajac-Landeskog would be hard to stop if they get the cycle going down low

What about a first line of

Parise-Zajac-Tendaby

a second line of

Kovalchuk-Couterier-Rolston

That would be one of the best top six's in the league. If you signed a guy like Kaberle your back end would be set, and you guys could be contenders.

 

[arsmaster*]

I wonder what the reasoning is behind Rask going up from 28 to 20. What I've understood is that his season with the leksands allsvenskan team has been over for a while, and that he's been playing u-18 playoffs, and now u-18 WJC's. Where has he had a chance to prove himself within this last month?

2 goals 3 assissts so far in 3 games at the U-18's with a +7.

2nd on the team in scoring behind Mika Zibanejad.

Look forward to seeing the game against Canada today.

 

[Granlund2Pulkkinen*]

no Kucherov in top 30? Just crazy
Jurco over Kucherov? crazy

No GM in their right mind would take a 5'10" 148lb Russian who is captain of his MHL squad and is obviously grooming himself for a good KHL career.

 

[Crede777]

Please please please Huberdeau fall to 8th

A highly skilled winger projected by many as a top 5 who drops because of concerns about size/work ethic and is drafted by Columbus?

Let someone else draft him who will do a decent job at development.

Filatov filatov filatov filatov...