Newsday: Isles irked

[CREW99AW]

Sone were seriously surprised by the scathing trade deadline comments from the media?


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[seabass45]

I don't get the value of asking players about something stupid the GM did.

 

[Felix Unger]

Sone were seriously surprised by the scathing trade deadline comments from the media?


http://www.newsday.com/sports/hocke...818?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Crew, not to quibble, but all I saw here were quotes from players and Capuano. What are they supposed to do other than rally around their own team?

The really horrible thing is that the players have to answer all these questions because Snow think he's Bill Belichick, the a**.

 

[Talain]

Point out that the emperor has no clothes, AND that the fans deserve better than the joke that this organization has been as of late.

 

[CREW99AW]

Crew, not to quibble, but all I saw here were quotes from players and Capuano. What are they supposed to do other than rally around their own team?

The really horrible thing is that the players have to answer all these questions because Snow think he's Bill Belichick, the a**.

Instead of the press asking the players what they think, I want the press to stop giving Snow marsh mellow interviews, like the one on Sportsnet.

 

[BTrotts19]

I am sure the players are annoyed but they have to realize that nobody was taking shots at them. I like the "us against the world" closeness, I just wish the owner felt a duty to give these guys a fighting chance to compete. We have a fine group of players, built exclusively from the inside. I wonder if Chuck is irked at being publicly mocked. The boys need help and management has yet to provide it. This summer will be telling for me.

 

[Felix Unger]

Instead of the press asking the players what they think, I want the press to stop giving Snow marsh mellow interviews, like the one on Sportsnet.

The press where, though? In Toronto? What does that matter to us? The only person who can make a stir is Staple, and he risks losing access.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Instead of the press asking the players what they think, I want the press to stop giving Snow marsh mellow interviews, like the one on Sportsnet.

The problem is that if those shows do that, then no gm would ever want to go on the shows. I actually don't blame them, they're protecting their product.

 

[The Underboss]

I appreciate the players being mad, but they've been put in a position to fail by management.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Stop sucking balls and people won't take potshots.

 

[doublechili]

I agree that the players can't be blamed for ownership/management errors, but I do think the media treatment of the Isles goes beyond Wang/Snow.

For AGES there have been elements in the Canadian hockey media who have enjoyed ragging on the Isles. Part of that is certainly the various incompetencies of the past 20 years. Part has been personal grudges in some cases (Healy, Ferraro, etc.). But I've also wondered whether there is an element of resentment that a US-based team is up there with the great Canadian dynasties and therefore they enjoy taking shots at the franchise. I know it sounds crazy and maybe it is, but I've noticed this for a LONG time. I actually had a brief email exchange with Steve Simmons back (I think) in the mid-90s b/c of an anti-Isles rant of his.

 

[steveat]

As a Canadian and an Isles fan, there is no resentment. if there is, then it must come from the younger generation. The only resentment older (over 30) Canadian hockey fans have towards US-based hockey teams are the ones in the south, where it is more entertainment based fans and not fans that really know the game.

There are a ton of young people that had NO idea the Isles were a dynasty. I recently went to my cousin's wedding (Boston/NJ family) and speaking to one of his friends...he's apparently a MET/Jets/Nets fan...since it's like a family of teams..he does root for the Isles, but he had NO idea they were a dynasty...like ever...he just thought they always sucked.

 

[TheRightWay]

I agree that the players can't be blamed for ownership/management errors, but I do think the media treatment of the Isles goes beyond Wang/Snow.

For AGES there have been elements in the Canadian hockey media who have enjoyed ragging on the Isles. Part of that is certainly the various incompetencies of the past 20 years. Part has been personal grudges in some cases (Healy, Ferraro, etc.). But I've also wondered whether there is an element of resentment that a US-based team is up there with the great Canadian dynasties and therefore they enjoy taking shots at the franchise. I know it sounds crazy and maybe it is, but I've noticed this for a LONG time. I actually had a brief email exchange with Steve Simmons back (I think) in the mid-90s b/c of an anti-Isles rant of his.

This is so ridiculous. Where was the anti-Red Wing agenda this last decade? This is a ridiculously paranoid sentiment.

 

[scott99]

Let's face it, the ridicule isn't only about the trade, the players played like **** this year. BUT, they don't deserve the backlash for the stupid trade.

 

[Paulinho]

Play better.

 

[doublechili]

This is so ridiculous. Where was the anti-Red Wing agenda this last decade? This is a ridiculously paranoid sentiment.

Although I'm tempted to respond in kind, I do realize that my post could be perceived that way so I'll let it slide. I tend not to be paranoid (or, hopefully, ridiculous ), and shake my head when other posters talk about an anti-Isles bias in the NHL offices, etc.. However, and I'm stating this as a subjective opinion, not as fact, I have perceived a long-term negativity towards the Isles, and I think I'm not imagining it. I've perceived a bias in favor of the 70s Habs and 80s Oilers dynasties versus the Isles. I note that the Isles' great players tend to be underrated as compared with the greats of those Habs and Oilers teams. And the negativity by some SLAM, TSN, etc. commentators has been a long-term, pre-Wang/Snow, thing.

Having said all of that, it's likely that this is a case of individual biases by ex-players (like Healy and Ferraro) and maybe some individual writers like Simmons. I'll acknowledge that it is not part of the national psyche in Canada and apologize for any offense taken by you or by our ridiculously paranoid and sensitive neighbors to the north (just kidding, really ).

BTW, the recent great Detroit teams were just that, great, not a dynasty, and I was talking about dynasties specifically.

 

[Tpkc2]

The Isles should be more irked with their 3rd period performance!

 

[KnishOfTheCrease]

Right, the players voice their displeasure then promptly go out and blow a 2 goal lead that night. Sack up for christs sake.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

I'm thought more people would rag on management and not the players in this thread. Good to see shared accountability.

These are the same guys that have blown double digit third period leads.

 

[nyisles]

They should be "irked" about their own performances, and the turds manning the front office. Everything else is a product of those things.

 

[enigmatic]

maybe they can revoke all of nhl networks employees' media passes......we wont be able to get any nationally televised......oh wait, nevermind

 

[Jester9881]

This is so ridiculous. Where was the anti-Red Wing agenda this last decade? This is a ridiculously paranoid sentiment.

Where was the Red Wing dynasty? I'm not talking about the pseudo dynasties fans claim today.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

I am glad they take it personally. I also hope they are honest about their situation unlike say Travis, who was delusional about how good their defense is. Hopefully the criticism plants some seeds of discontent and they start demanding that management treat them better. But they too can play better.