Islanders General Rumour, Trade, FA, & Waiver Speculation 2018-19 Part II

[Tres Peleches]

Too funny. I actually went to school with Hogan's husband. I should try my luck at being an insider for the boards!

He doesn’t happen to work a thing Baskin Robbins or Carvel, does he?

 

[PK Cronin]

He doesn’t happen to work a thing Baskin Robbins or Carvel, does he?

Maybe a Sbarro's...

 

[PWJunior]

Take this from me as I am an expert on this subject (check my user name): trying to fail your way into success is an INCREDIBLY dangerous game to play. The Sabres failed their way into the gift of Jack Eichel, an absolute bonafied franchise level center. As matters have developed there is a great chance he won't play a single meaningful NHL game until the seventh (!) season of his career (and that's if the current GM's plan goes 100% perfect). Unless you have absolutely no hope whatsoever trying to lose in a league and sport as completely random and unpredictable as the NHL is a real bad idea. Because you know what is worse than being on a hamster wheel of mediocrity? Being on a hamster wheel of terrible with no joy whatsoever praying for ping pong balls to save you.

I'm not talking about tanking it a year before like Buffalo did. I'm talking about sticking to a plan and not deviating it from it. The future is Barzal and the other kids. We lost Judas for nothing, that's a franchise changing loss that you don't just bounce back from like it was nothing. The Isles need more high end talent, plain and simple.

I'm talking about a rebuild like Toronto, an evaluation season and then the ascension the season afterwards with a young fast and skilled team. A rebuild is happening, I'm not in denial about it like many others. There will be no trades for Karlsson, Trouba, Pacioretty, etc.

This team will play hard, have character, and will be a pain in the ass to play against. In the end, the loss and lack of talent will rear it's ugly head. Then you let the natural transition take place. Sell off assets that aren't a fit for the future and reshape the roster. It's a recalculation, not a complete throw in the towel before game 1 like the Sabres did. There is a big difference.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Trouba is a RFA after this season, we could totally go for him.

 

[SI90]

Greiss channeling Jesus DiPietro

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Greiss channeling Jesus DiPietro

Holy Toledo, look at that beard...

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Going to have to shave that..

 

[Goombha]

How to Donate Your Hair in 3 Simple Steps

 

[TeamKidd]

I'm not talking about tanking it a year before like Buffalo did. I'm talking about sticking to a plan and not deviating it from it. The future is Barzal and the other kids. We lost Judas for nothing, that's a franchise changing loss that you don't just bounce back from like it was nothing. The Isles need more high end talent, plain and simple.

This team will play hard, have character, and will be a pain in the ass to play against. In the end, the loss and lack of talent will rear it's ugly head. Then you let the natural transition take place. Sell off assets that aren't a fit for the future and reshape the roster. It's a recalculation, not a complete throw in the towel before game 1 like the Sabres did. There is a big difference.

This is something i was screaming about at the trade deadline. we let several high quality assets walk out the door for nothing, just so we could win ONE playoff round. Okposo, Neilsen and Martin were basically let go (neilsen debatable) and they didnt force JT to resign before the trade deadline. it was governing by crony-ism, desperation and arrogance. Eliminating that was our best gift this offseason. I have no doubt that Lou is taking the same playbook from Toronto and implementing that here. Evaluate, trade off pieces for futures and build up the following 2 years....then we might actually be somewhere. and im not just talking about Belmont neither...

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

Thomas Greiss has a hockey camp??!! Lol What does he teach them? How to allow 5-6 goals every game?

 

[IslesNorway]

This is something i was screaming about at the trade deadline. we let several high quality assets walk out the door for nothing, just so we could win ONE playoff round. Okposo, Neilsen and Martin were basically let go (neilsen debatable) and they didnt force JT to resign before the trade deadline. it was governing by crony-ism, desperation and arrogance. Eliminating that was our best gift this offseason. I have no doubt that Lou is taking the same playbook from Toronto and implementing that here. Evaluate, trade off pieces for futures and build up the following 2 years....then we might actually be somewhere. and im not just talking about Belmont neither...

Agree. We need to start maximizing our assets properly and I believe Lou will do that. If they don't resign at a given date trade them for whatever comes back that's useable. Failing this was one of Snow's worst mistakes and it must not happen again

 

[seafoam]

I can see this being the roster they go into camp with. I think they're going to want to evaluate what they have before making a splash for a 2C or top 4 D.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Maybe a Sbarro's...

A real New York slice.

 

[IODCPiper]

Nelson
1st Round Pick
Vande Sompel
Soderstrom

To much

 

[Tres Peleches]

Maybe a Sbarro's...

Do they serve ice cream there?

If not, all rumors from there are null and void

 

[CupHolders]

 

[sabremike]

I'm not talking about tanking it a year before like Buffalo did. I'm talking about sticking to a plan and not deviating it from it. The future is Barzal and the other kids. We lost Judas for nothing, that's a franchise changing loss that you don't just bounce back from like it was nothing. The Isles need more high end talent, plain and simple.

I'm talking about a rebuild like Toronto, an evaluation season and then the ascension the season afterwards with a young fast and skilled team. A rebuild is happening, I'm not in denial about it like many others. There will be no trades for Karlsson, Trouba, Pacioretty, etc.

This team will play hard, have character, and will be a pain in the ass to play against. In the end, the loss and lack of talent will rear it's ugly head. Then you let the natural transition take place. Sell off assets that aren't a fit for the future and reshape the roster. It's a recalculation, not a complete throw in the towel before game 1 like the Sabres did. There is a big difference.

The problem with copying Toronto is like the old Steve Martin joke about how to become a millionaire: first get a million dollars. They got incredibly good luck and ended up with Matthews which is what really set them up. And the problem with roster turnover is the team has several guys and contracts (Ladd,Clutterbuck, Kromerov) that are literally impossible to move unless you are willing to give up a significant asset in a deal. This is where the terrible deals handed out to bottom 6 guys come back to bite the team in the ass. The thing I dread is that Eberle and Lee will be the guys to go.

 

[YearlyLottery]

The problem with copying Toronto is like the old Steve Martin joke about how to become a millionaire: first get a million dollars. They got incredibly good luck and ended up with Matthews which is what really set them up. And the problem with roster turnover is the team has several guys and contracts (Ladd,Clutterbuck, Kromerov) that are literally impossible to move unless you are willing to give up a significant asset in a deal. This is where the terrible deals handed out to bottom 6 guys come back to bite the team in the ass. The thing I dread is that Eberle and Lee will be the guys to go.

Good thing the Islanders got their million dollars in Barzal then.

 

[sabremike]

Good thing the Islanders got their million dollars in Barzal then.

Fair comment, but the Leafs also hit home runs with several of their other picks which can be said to be very good luck.

 

[TeamKidd]

Fair comment, but the Leafs also hit home runs with several of their other picks which can be said to be very good luck.

Noah Dobson and Oliver Wahlstrom say hi.

 

[sabremike]

Noah Dobson and Oliver Wahlstrom say hi.

From your lips to God's ears. The smart money says they will pan out but it isn't a 100% guarantee.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Some veteran dmen out there like Orpik and Hamhuis, would like to add one as a PTO.

 

[PWJunior]

Some veteran dmen out there like Orpik and Hamhuis, would like to add one as a PTO.

I'd be all over Hamhuis as I think he would be a great partner for Pulock, but I really want to find out what Toews is and Hamhuis would be blocking him. We could trade him at the trade deadline and play Toews then. He would have to agree to knowing he'll be shopped at that time though.

 

[SI90]

I'd be all over Hamhuis as I think he would be a great partner for Pulock, but I really want to find out what Toews is and Hamhuis would be blocking him. We could trade him at the trade deadline and play Toews then. He would have to agree to knowing he'll be shopped at that time though.

I’m shocked that Hamhuis isn’t signed yet. Maybe he’s weighing his options and seeing how the rest of the summer shapes out.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

I'd be all over Hamhuis as I think he would be a great partner for Pulock, but I really want to find out what Toews is and Hamhuis would be blocking him. We could trade him at the trade deadline and play Toews then. He would have to agree to knowing he'll be shopped at that time though.

He’d probably be fine with that, honestly. Get to enjoy LI for a few months and then shipped to a playoff team.

Toews played thirty AHL games last year I’m in no rush to see him just this second. In fact, it would be ideal for him to get 40 AHL games and play some hard minutes and then come up after.