Islanders General Rumour, Trade, FA, & Waiver Speculation 2018-19 Part II

[CodeE]

starting to think as painful as it will be to wait, we would be better off waiting for Dobson. He looks like a real good one, and a winner

I remember watching the #10 pick very closely with Wahlstrom/Dobson/Bouchard all on the board to see what direction Edmonton would head in after the Rags picked. Something Chia said stuck with me after he took Bouchard, paraphrasing here but he's seen how hard it is to trade for young, quality defense, so he's going to draft and develop what he needs instead.

The Islanders need to take the same approach with Wahlstrom & Dobson moving forward. Other fanbases will ask for Wahlstrom+Dobson+Pulock+1st for players of Duchene's & Trouba's calibers and insist our young assets are nothing special.

The chance you have the next Juolevi is worth it for the chance you have the next McAvoy/Provorov.

 

[CupHolders]

Leddy is our only legitimate top-4 LHD. It's him and an army of bottom pairing guys. We look much better at RD so we upgrade our strength making our weakness even weaker?

Hickey as our top pairing LD is going to be great.

The wording of my post was clumsy...

I think the main point to take away from my post is that I’m not too keen on trading for Trouba.

The second is what then would a Trouba deal possibly look like with regards to filling the Jets needs? Again, not so much that the Isles should do it anyway.

Finally, it depends on what the Isles are trying to accomplish this year?

If it’s to still try and compete. Then a second deal would still be required to bring in a LHD or sign one (Hamhuis, Klefbom, Ryan Murray etc). Traditionally, a little easier to acquire than RHD

If it’s to retool/rebuild. Then maybe you acquire the asset you think is a best long term core solution and not worry too much where it weakens you... Find a fix later.

Ultimate verdict: Don’t see a workable deal for Trouba anyway.

 

[PWJunior]

I remember watching the #10 pick very closely with Wahlstrom/Dobson/Bouchard all on the board to see what direction Edmonton would head in after the Rags picked. Something Chia said stuck with me after he took Bouchard, paraphrasing here but he's seen how hard it is to trade for young, quality defense, so he's going to draft and develop what he needs instead.

The Islanders need to take the same approach with Wahlstrom & Dobson moving forward. Other fanbases will ask for Wahlstrom+Dobson+Pulock+1st for players of Duchene's & Trouba's calibers and insist our young assets are nothing special.

The chance you have the next Juolevi is worth it for the chance you have the next McAvoy/Provorov.

Making trades like that is pure idiotic asset management, Milbury-esque dumbassery.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Maybe Brodin becomes available? The Wild are awfully close to the cap, and have key players to re-sign.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Maybe Brodin becomes available? The Wild are awfully close to the cap, and have key players to re-sign.

Nelson
1st Round Pick
Vande Sompel
Soderstrom

 

[PWJunior]

Nelson
1st Round Pick
Vande Sompel
Soderstrom

Jack Hughes is going to look great in a Minnesota jersey...

 

[YearlyLottery]

Jack Hughes is going to look great in a Minnesota jersey...

I'm not sure what I would do as GM, but I certainly wouldn't be trading my first round picks in a time where they can become first overall picks quite easily.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Nelson
1st Round Pick
Vande Sompel
Soderstrom

Protected 1st.

 

[PWJunior]

Protected 1st.

With the 1st overall pick in the 2020 draft, the Minnesota Wild are proud to select Alex LaFreniere...

 

[YearlyLottery]

With the 1st overall pick in the 2020 draft, the Minnesota Wild are proud to select Alex LaFreniere...

"The Toronto Maple Leafs trade John Tavares in exchange for.. WAIT A MINUTE!! THAT'S GARTH SNOW!! BY GOD ALMIGHTY GARTH SNOW IS TRADING FOR JOHN TAVARES... OH MY GOD!! HE HAS A RANGER JERSEY ON! TAVARES HAS SHAKEN HANDS WITH SATAN HIMSELF!"

Give me some likes Isles fans for the WWE reference. I'm sure the Leaf fans will give me likes three weeks from now.

 

[boredmale]

Maybe Brodin becomes available? The Wild are awfully close to the cap, and have key players to re-sign.

Looks like Minnesota is fine this season. 24 players signed with only Zucker left to sign(5M under the cap). Looks like the only problem they will have is which 2 guys do they send down to start the season

 

[SI]

When was the last big trade and sign?

ROR

 

[BelovedIsles]

With the 1st overall pick in the 2020 draft, the Minnesota Wild are proud to select Alex LaFreniere...

Oh c’mon. I know you’re all about a rebuild PW , but they won’t suck enough the next two seasons. LL and Trotz have both been on record that they want to be competitive during this transition period.

 

[nyisleslover]

I know they are different eras now and the game has changed considerably since the late 1990s, but talent wise what can we expect from our roster as it stands currently, relative to the expansion Predators team that Trotz coached in 98/99?

In taking a quick look at their roster I feel like the current Islanders team has more talent than the Nashville team Trotz coached to a better record than 3 other NHL teams (including the 98/99 Islanders team of course). My point being, that I believe a Trotz lead team would be hard pressed to finish last overall. If we get the first overall pick and a shot at Jack Hughes, I would suspect that it would more likely come via lottery luck than a last place finish.

 

[CREW99AW]

Looks like Minnesota is fine this season. 24 players signed with only Zucker left to sign(5M under the cap). Looks like the only problem they will have is which 2 guys do they send down to start the season

I thought we would see more turnover on that Minn roster. There was a rumor that the front office was unhappy that they have not been much of a post season threat

 

[seabass45]

I thought we would see more turnover on that Minn roster. There was a rumor that the front office was unhappy that they have not been much of a post season threat

Yeah they’re in trouble and i’m not sure there’s a way out aside from trading a few assets for futures and hoping for the best.

 

[PWJunior]

Yeah they’re in trouble and i’m not sure there’s a way out aside from trading a few assets for futures and hoping for the best.

They are stuck on the hamster wheel of mediocrity. The situation I want to try and avoid with this team.

 

[The Lighthouse]

They are stuck on the hamster wheel of mediocrity. The situation I want to try and avoid with this team.

Makes me think of this team's years in 03, 04, 07. Couple good moments, mostly mediocre. Sprint to get into the playoffs and get destroyed in the first round.

 

[NC 1972]

Although there has been little movement in the form of top free agents for NYI we were handcuffed by he whos name shall not be spoken and I know many here want the cup ASAP I understand. But this year things seem to be falling our way LL,BT and then the draft the hockey gods smiled on us and things broke our way.Yes I’m aware prospects are just that but it seems we may have something special in more than just a couple of these kids.Tough to sell the fans on patanice but I love the idea of a fast young talented cost controlled group with a continuous flow of talent comming from a well run minor league system. I for one would be upset if the cupboard was cleaned out for a player who seems to find his way into the spotlight for always being disgruntled.

 

[seabass45]

Trouba gets 5.5 mil.

 

[PWJunior]

Trouba is going to Detroit the first chance he gets. I would stay away.

 

[BMOK33]

LOL I misread twitter and thought Brendan Burke had married Shannon Hogan

 

[PK Cronin]

LOL I misread twitter and thought Brendan Burke had married Shannon Hogan

Too funny. I actually went to school with Hogan's husband. I should try my luck at being an insider for the boards!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

When you guys get around to doing your season predictions thread, based on the posts in this thread I think I'm probably going to be one of the more optimistic predictions posted.

 

[sabremike]

They are stuck on the hamster wheel of mediocrity. The situation I want to try and avoid with this team.

Take this from me as I am an expert on this subject (check my user name): trying to fail your way into success is an INCREDIBLY dangerous game to play. The Sabres failed their way into the gift of Jack Eichel, an absolute bonafied franchise level center. As matters have developed there is a great chance he won't play a single meaningful NHL game until the seventh (!) season of his career (and that's if the current GM's plan goes 100% perfect). Unless you have absolutely no hope whatsoever trying to lose in a league and sport as completely random and unpredictable as the NHL is a real bad idea. Because you know what is worse than being on a hamster wheel of mediocrity? Being on a hamster wheel of terrible with no joy whatsoever praying for ping pong balls to save you.