Is Stamkos on his way to being a HoFer?

deepthoughtsleafs

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Suppose Stamkos has another 2-3 years of prime production and then falters off. Is that enough to make him a Hall of Famer? Does he need to win a cup? What if he never wins the ultimate goal, would that matter?

Wonder what people's thoughts are.
 

GlitchMarner

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Stamkos doesn't need a Cup to be inducted into the HHOF. If he stays at or near his current level for another couple of seasons after this, he'll be a lock. Even if he falls off badly soon, he may get in because of his peak years and Richard wins.
 

LT

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Yes. He'll probably end up with over 600 goals, which should make him a virtual lock. Much less his two Rockets.
 

Cursed Lemon

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His biggest case is that from 2009 to 2019, he's sixth in PPG and second in GPG.

Outside of that, he has two Rockets as his hardware. His point finishes are 2, 2, 5, 5. He has no 1st-AST and only two 2nd. His post-season play is lackluster. He was a Hart finalist in his 60-goal year and otherwise his voting presence is nonexistent. He's only led his own team in scoring twice (tying another time). He didn't make Canada 2010 and missed 2014 due to injury.

He wouldn't be the worst HOF inductee but his bullet-point resume is lacking.
 

GlitchMarner

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His biggest case is that from 2009 to 2019, he's sixth in PPG and second in GPG.

Outside of that, he has two Rockets as his hardware. His point finishes are 2, 2, 5, 5. He has no 1st-AST and only two 2nd. His post-season play is lackluster. He was a Hart finalist in his 60-goal year and otherwise his voting presence is nonexistent. He's only led his own team in scoring twice (tying another time). He didn't make Canada 2010 and missed 2014 due to injury.

He wouldn't be the worst HOF inductee but his bullet-point resume is lacking.

I don't think scoring placements are everything, but he's been a top five scorer more often than Francis, Hawerchuk, Modano, Sundin, Denis Savard, Fedorov, Gilmour and other Hall of Famers who aren't generally considered bottom-rung Hall of Fame members by knowledgeable hockey fans.
 
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Cursed Lemon

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I don't think scoring placements are everything, but he's been a top five scorer more often than Francis, Hawerchuk, Modano, Sundin, Denis Savard, Fedorov, Gilmour and other Hall of Famers who aren't generally considered bottom-rung Hall of Fame members by knowledgeable hockey fans.

Fedorov, Modano, and Gilmour were defensive beasts that had great postseason performances (and all of them have Cups). Francis is two points shy of 1800, 2nd all time in assists, and even has a Selke himself in addition to a great post-season record of his own.

Sundin has #LeafsNation as his leading stat line. :B However, he also led the Leafs in scoring every single year except one (twelve years), and it was never close. He was a one-man show and probably deserved more Hart recognition for it than he got...which was none. In the limited amount of post-season appearances for the Leafs during that time, Sundin was also solid. A big boon, however, is the fact that he is one of the most prolific international players of all time, with 94 points in 79 games.

Hawerchuk and Savard get a lot of mileage off of sexy 100+ point totals, though in the 80s they were top-10ish in PPG against some of history's best of all time, including Wayne and Mario. Stamkos has better per-game stats than them, that's straight up, so it's not like he's hanging around with Ciccarelli and Andreychuk.
 

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