Is Setogouchi a Dark Horse to win Calder?

[Form and Substance]

In response to the 2nd most recent post:
Haha, funny joke... He was hurt during training camp and it led into the season as well. He wasnt even practicing. Maybe that had something to it you think?

In response to the most recent post:

I hope they beat the Giants too and that somehow the hitmen can beat the tigers so i can see Seto in the dome. As for it being a 3 week hot streak? Try a 2 month hot streak. Take a look at his stats over the last two months, Id guess its something like 54 points in his last 30ish games. Of those 54ish points you can bank on it that at least 28-30 are goals. I think its almost certain that he was hurt the beginning of the year as shown in his very consistent production lately.

hey calm down I like Setoguchi, I was just poking fun at SJ fans crappy hindsight (not that mine or anyone else's is any better)

 

[nuckfan insk]

I watched him in Saskatoon the previous seasons and he is the best foward to come through our system in quite some time. This guy is a gamebraker and is pretty clutch, always produces in the playoffs. Its just a shame the Blades couldn't put together a competetive roster while he was around.

what other skilled blue chip forwards have the blades produced recently ? umm none. and if you say colton gillies then slap yourself cause i said bluechip and skilled.

 

[BladesOfTeal]

I can see Pavelski as nice trade bait this offseason. If the Sharks do in fact decide to trade a goalie, Pavelski added in the deal could bring in quite a return. If that happens, a spot is open for someone to steal, IMO.

The problem with this lies in that the Sharks org is not comfortably deep at C past Pavelski, as Mitchell's not close yet, and Iggulden (despite high hopes) is showing no indications of making the jump.

With the possibility of either Marleau or Thornton gone in the near future, I don't think that Pavelski will be tossed around lightly.

 

[superpie]

Here we go I found the thread, Im guessing Seto isnt a darkhorse anymore

 

[rt]

He's been quite impressive so far in the Coyotes/Sharks mini-series. 5 goals in 7 games ain't bad.

 

[superpie]

He's been quite impressive so far in the Coyotes/Sharks mini-series. 5 goals in 7 games ain't bad.

Make that 6 goals in 8 games

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

My god imagine if Thornton got a star winger to play with like Ovechkin.

 

[superpie]

My god imagine if Thornton got a star winger to play with like Ovechkin.

All of us Shark Fans have imagined that

 

[Eichel 9]

He is a great goal scorer...and he isn't getting gift wrapped goals from Joe either...so don't make this out like it's all because of him.

IMO, Setoguchi is just the kind of player Thornton needs on his wing. He gets open and knows how to put the puck in the net....

 

[le_sean]

My god imagine if Thornton got a star winger to play with like Ovechkin.

Then he'd still do nothing in the playoffs, so what?

 

[pdxshark]

He is a great goal scorer...and he isn't getting gift wrapped goals from Joe either...so don't make this out like it's all because of him.

IMO, Setoguchi is just the kind of player Thornton needs on his wing. He gets open and knows how to put the puck in the net....

dare I say a "more talented cheechoo"?

Watch his highlights, he isn't getting gift goals, his first goal against pheonix should be a play of the week!

 

[LWD]

I wonder where all the Seto Bashers went?

 

[Pure Rock Fury*]

I wonder where all the Seto Bashers went?

Having a large Crow buffet dinner with the Roenick doubters

 

[Ender]

dare I say a "more talented cheechoo"?

I think of a Cheechoo that can skate = Setoguchi.

 

[fogducker]

setougouchi vs kane vs toews

 

[McNasty]

If he remains in the bigs which he should I would definitely give him a shot at the Calder, hes gotta keep it up but hes showing hes a hell of a player.

 

[cheechoo train]

i love his play. he has definitely fit well into that 4th line spot we put him in, especially since he should have only been a 3rd round pick with limited skills.



joe thornton = best 4th line player in the game.

 

[dmcccdmn]

Here we go I found the thread, Im guessing Seto isnt a darkhorse anymore

He is still a darkhorse. At his current rate, he might end up with the most goals amongst rookies at the end of the year, but he won't even come close to the total points that Kane will have and I think that determines the Calder winner. The only chance he can win is if he pots 50 goals which ain't gonna happen.

 

[voxel]

The kid creates goals outta nothing. And I agree with Sharks fans - he's not riding Thornton's coattails.

Will he win Calder? I doubt it because Toews is simply too good.

 

[Corto]

The kid creates goals outta nothing. And I agree with Sharks fans - he's not riding Thornton's coattails.

Will he win Calder? I doubt it because Toews is simply too good.

And Kane's even better.

Well, maybe...

 

[voxel]

And Kane's even better.

Well, maybe...

I'd rather have Toews. He's more a complete player. Kane will put up more points this year and that might push him over the top in Calder voting.

 

[Patty Ice]

I wonder where all the Seto Bashers went?

Having a large Crow buffet dinner with the Roenick doubters

I never denied his talent but I wonder will you guys still be jocking him as hard when his streak stops and his drought begins.

 

[Nizdizzle]

I don't see why this thread was brought up again, he's more of a darkhorse than I originally thought he'd be, just because of Kane tearing it up

 

[Round John]

what other skilled blue chip forwards have the blades produced recently ? umm none. and if you say colton gillies then slap yourself cause i said bluechip and skilled.

Sometimes dannoabram I think when you see the world only through green and yellow glasses it doesn't help you see the forest for the trees. The Raiders and Blades have both had a pretty poor last twenty years in producing NHL blue chip forwards. The Raiders have Hartnell and that's debatable (in my opinion injuries have limited his effectiveness, not talent), the Blades have Erat and now Setoguchi. Like I said neither team has much to crow about. And I have to ask as I am curious what's with your constant Gillies bashing? I would wish any kid who has a shot at the show, despite my personal opinion of them, the best.

 

[WalterSobchak]

1. Patrick Kane (Chi) 21
2. Jonathan Toews (Chi) 14
3. Andrew Cogliano (Edm) 11
4. Sam Gagner (Edm) 8
Daniel Carcillo (Phx) 8
Tobias Enstrom (Atl) 8
Steven Wagner (StL) 8
Martin Hanzal (Phx) 8
Peter Mueller (Phx) 8
Nicklas Backstrom (Wsh) 8
11. Devin Setoguchi (SJ) 7
Bryan Little (Atl) 7
David Perron (StL) 7
14. Torrey Mitchell (SJ) 6
15. Tom Gilbert (Edm) 5
Nigel Dawes (NYR) 5
David Clarkson (NJ) 5
18. Drew Miller (Ana) 4
Mike Lundin (TB) 4
Matt Niskanen (Dal) 4
James Sheppard (Min) 4
Jiri Tlusty (Tor) 4
Erik Johnson (StL) 4
etcetcetc

He's as much a darkhorse as those top 18 IMO, but Kane and Toews are running away with it right now. To be fair, Barret Jackman won the Calder in 02/03 with 19 pts and he beat out Zetterberg with 44 pts so points are not the be-all and end-all for Calder winners. How important a player is to his team and how acclimated a player is to the NHL in his first year is much more important.

Though, as a Blues fan, I can conceed that they needed a recount on that years Calder winner. I can fully admit if it came down to having Z or J on my team, I'd pick Z 7.5 times out of 10.