Is Patrick Roy remembered more as a Canadien or as a Avalanche?

what do you think?


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NyQuil

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You're absolutely right but as a neutral fan I don't remember anything he did with the Wild, really. I definitely remember his big contributions to that cup run with the Kings though. Even if that's 'unfair'.

Gretzky is remembered as an Oiler because he never won one with the Kings. If he'd won some with the Kings, its a different story.

Bourque I will give you, but he also played his entire career with Boston so it's a bit of a different case. That said, if you asked me for my most immediate memory of Bourque, its winning the cup with the Avs.

For clarification, I was a kid in the 80s so I remember a lot more about Roy as an Av but I’ll always think of him as a Canadien first.

I guess it’s not as much about the freshness of the memory for me and more of a visceral belief.
 
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Connor McConnor

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With Montreal:
- 10 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 2 Conn Smythes
- 3 Vezina
- 4 Jennings
- 5 All-Star team appearances

With Colorado:
- 8 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 1 Conn Smythe
- 0 Vezina
- 1 Jennings
- 1 All-Star team appearance

It's Montreal for sure.

As a '92 baby I legit didn't even know he was THAT good or won THAT many accolades with the Habs holy F. I voted Avs because that's how I remember him but this post is making me go watch some MTL Roy highlights.
 
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DonM

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For me it's the Avs, as I was like 9 when he was traded there. To anyone who followed closely through his whole career, it should probably be the Habs.
 

treple13

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If you think about the Habs two Cups, you think Roy

If you think about the Avs two Cups, you think Sakic/Forsberg first

Yeah, I'm of the age where I remember watching more from the Avs, but it's pretty clearly Montreal
 

habsrule4eva3089

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One of the worst despicable human beings this sport has seen. That's how a goon like him should be remembered as.

Who cares what you do on a sheet of ice, if your human behaviour belongs in a prison cell.

Has he seen a specialist for his anger problems yet?
 

DonM

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One of the worst despicable human beings is what a goon like him should be remembered as.

Who cares what you do on a sheet of ice, if your human behaviour belongs in a prison cell.
Woah did I miss Roy becoming a serial killer or a lawyer or something?
 
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Foppberg

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With Montreal:
- 10 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 2 Conn Smythes
- 3 Vezina
- 4 Jennings
- 5 All-Star team appearances

With Colorado:
- 8 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 1 Conn Smythe
- 0 Vezina
- 1 Jennings
- 1 All-Star team appearance

It's Montreal for sure.
Not really relevant. Like others have said, it probably depends on when you were born.

Example: I think of Chris Chelios as a Red Wing, but for someone who started watching hockey in the 80s it'd probably be Montreal, and Chicago for people who started in the 90s.
 

wabagee

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I used to love goaltenders but it pissed me off I couldn’t cheer for Roy because I hated the Habs. The morning I found out he was on the Avalanche I bet my big brother they would win the cup that year. He still owes me 100$.
 

OrrNumber4

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With Montreal:
- 10 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 2 Conn Smythes
- 3 Vezina
- 4 Jennings
- 5 All-Star team appearances

With Colorado:
- 8 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 1 Conn Smythe
- 0 Vezina
- 1 Jennings
- 1 All-Star team appearance

It's Montreal for sure.

Yes, but not because he was any worse with Colorado but because the competition was better. During his time in Colorado, he was constantly battling Hasek and Brodeur.
 

Erik Alfredsson

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Not really relevant. Like others have said, it probably depends on when you were born.

Example: I think of Chris Chelios as a Red Wing, but for someone who started watching hockey in the 80s it'd probably be Montreal, and Chicago for people who started in the 90s.
There are people born late enough to barely even remember him, or not even seen him play at all. There are tons of players currently in the NHL who would've never even seen him play.

So for those who weren't old enough to have seen him play for either Montreal or Colorado, he's probably more associated for his time with the Habs.
 

tyhee

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Going against those that say younger people will say the Avs and older Les Canadiens, I picked the Avalanche despite having been in my forties when he was traded to Colorado.

He played longer for the Canadiens and won more honours with the Canadiens. Otoh, my most vivid recollections of Roy are as a person rather than his on-ice play.

1. his comments on leaving the Avalanche coaching job, which I was unimpressed with (right or wrong I thought he shouldn't have publicly slagged the job his boss was doing), and

2. his publicly demanding a trade, slagging his coach and getting traded to the Avalanche, which was extremely unpleasant.

The Avs are involved in both incidents and that makes me think of Roy largely starting his time with the Avs.

ymmv-and obviously will if you think more of Roy the player than Roy the person or if you have a different opinion about Roy the person.
 

Foppberg

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There are people born late enough to barely even remember him, or not even seen him play at all. There are tons of players currently in the NHL who would've never even seen him play.

So for those who weren't old enough to have seen him play for either Montreal or Colorado, he's probably more associated for his time with the Habs.
I never saw him play, I see him as an Av. Though there's probably an unconscious bias there. But I think in general despite the accolades that a player gets with a team, if you weren't around to see it and they move onto a different team, that's who you associate them with.

I think of Ed Belfour as a Leaf, Hasek as a Red Wing, Niedermayer as a Duck, etc. Whereas I think most would not agree with those.

Obvious outliers, like Gretzky etc. But that's my 2¢
 

ole ole

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With Montreal:
- 10 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 2 Conn Smythes
- 3 Vezina
- 4 Jennings
- 5 All-Star team appearances

With Colorado:
- 8 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 1 Conn Smythe
- 0 Vezina
- 1 Jennings
- 1 All-Star team appearance

It's Montreal for sure.
This nailed it .The only ones that should be picking the Avs are the ones that weren't old enough when Roy started.
 

bobholly39

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If you think about the Habs two Cups, you think Roy

If you think about the Avs two Cups, you think Sakic/Forsberg first

Yeah, I'm of the age where I remember watching more from the Avs, but it's pretty clearly Montreal

Avs two cups is definitely Sakic/Roy more than Sakic/Forsberg.

Forsberg was a distant 3rd in both cup runs - and that's only if he was even 3rd best, he might be farther back.

I agree Roy is Habs first - but this is still really, really close. I can't think of another player in history with a legacy as 50/50 as his is between 2 teams
 

LongWayDown37

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Habs for sure. But I have to admit, I had no idea that Roy spent almost as much time in Colorado.

when he was a Canadian, he was often the most dominant goalie in the league. By the time he was on the Avs, he was outshined by other stars in that team and league-wide Hasek was far and away the best goalie. He was everything in MTL.
 

treple13

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Avs two cups is definitely Sakic/Roy more than Sakic/Forsberg.

Forsberg was a distant 3rd in both cup runs - and that's only if he was even 3rd best, he might be farther back.

I agree Roy is Habs first - but this is still really, really close. I can't think of another player in history with a legacy as 50/50 as his is between 2 teams

If we are just talking Roy than sure, he's pretty 50/50 in terms of legacy for each team. And while you're probably right on the Forsberg thing, my point is that I still think of Forsberg when I think those Avs teams before I think Roy personally.

To me that's the tiebreaker if needed. You don't think of the Habs last title teams and not think Roy first and most people who think of those Avs teams think Sakic first.
 

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