Is Patrick Roy remembered more as a Canadien or as a Avalanche?

[slapKing]

Simple Question. is Roy remembered more as a Hab or or as a Av?

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[La Bamba]

As a mid 90s kid who starting following hockey closely in '06, I see Roy more affiliated with the Avs, especially after he coached there

 

[Bouboumaster]

He was great in the Avs.... but the stuff he did in Montréal made him a legend

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Avs for me

 

[Spring in Fialta]

One of those answers where it solely falls into how old you are. I'm born in '92 so the Avalanche for me. I'm a Habs fan.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

With Montreal:
- 10 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 2 Conn Smythes
- 3 Vezina
- 4 Jennings
- 5 All-Star team appearances

With Colorado:
- 8 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 1 Conn Smythe
- 0 Vezina
- 1 Jennings
- 1 All-Star team appearance

It's Montreal for sure.

 

[spiny norman]

Both.

 

[Canes]

Depends. Are you someone who grew up watching hockey in the mid 80s/early 90s, especially as a Canadian/Quebecois, or are you someone who grew up watching hockey in the mid 90s/early 2000s? Or are you just really old now and remember both? I'm the mid 90s/early 2000s guy myself.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Roy could go either way:

- Remembered as an Av because it's the first Cup they ever won, they won two and he won a Conn Smythe for the second one.

- Remembered as a Hab because he won two Cups and won both Conn Smythe's.

IMO either one is right. For me, he'll always be a Hab.

 

[SniperHF]

I think it's pretty obviously the Avs.
He was better with Montreal but that isn't always what gets you more remembered.

With Colorado it was more recent. He did not leave on good terms with Montreal. He also coached in Colorado which further associates him with the Avs. Roy lead the Avs in their first playoff/cup run.

All of this cements him in the public consciousness much more so as an Avalanche.

If hockey had a "go in the hall of fame wearing X team's cap" like Baseball does, he would be in as Avalanche.

Over time it may shift more back to Montreal, but I think that would have happened already by now.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I knew him as a member of the Avalanche.

 

[BenchBrawl]

You have to remember, Roy was already 30 years old when he was traded to Colorado. That's John Tavares' age right now. The main part of his career was already behind him, but he aged really well and played on those memorable Colorado teams and he was a top player there too (even winning another Smythe, and even his run in 1996 was Smythe level but Sakic was just too good), so people remember him for both.

The 1993 run was the essence of Roy's career, the signature of it all.

I compare it to Mark Messier Edmonton vs. New York. Not a perfect comparison, but they are both one of those great superstars who are remembered as having played for two teams and winning championships on both as a Top 2 or Top 3 player on both teams. But like Roy with the Habs, Messier was definitely an Oilers.

 

[McRpro]

Canadiens for me. With the Avs he was a star among stars. With the Canadiens he was the star. Obviously I'm old enough to remember him with the Habs. People that are younger will associate him more with the Avs.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think it's pretty obviously the Avs.
He was better with Montreal but that isn't always what gets you more remembered.

With Colorado it was more recent. He did not leave on good terms with Montreal. He also coached in Colorado which further associates him with the Avs. Roy lead the Avs in their first playoff/cup run.

All of this cements him in the public consciousness much more so as an Avalanche.

If hockey had a "go in the hall of fame wearing X team's cap" like Baseball does, he would be in as Avalanche.

Over time it may shift more back to Montreal, but I think that would have happened already by now.

This is highly unlikely, especially knowing Roy.

When his jersey got up the rafters in MTL he explicitly said : "Ce soir, je rentre chez nous" (Tonight, I come home).

He's always been very present in Quebec mediatic entourage, especially coaching the Quebec Rempart for so many years and to this day. So he's never far from MTL.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

He was better in Montreal but remembered more as an Av.

 

[Habano]

With Montreal:
- 10 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 2 Conn Smythes
- 3 Vezina
- 4 Jennings
- 5 All-Star team appearances

With Colorado:
- 8 seasons
- 2 Stanley Cups
- 1 Conn Smythe
- 0 Vezina
- 1 Jennings
- 1 All-Star team appearance

It's Montreal for sure.

Yup, agreed. But then again, I'm old enough to remember his rookie season when we won the cup. I guess it depends on your age.

 

[Albatros]

Montréal unless you're too young to remember, as good as he was in Colorado it doesn't really compare.

 

[Hasbro]

I remember him for the instant he switched between Hab to Avalanche:

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Habs.

He WAS the Habs.

Guy Lafleur retired mid-season during Roy's rookie year. They weren't supposed to be anywhere close to a cup.
This Raw Rookie takes them to a cup, on a team that had no business winning.

THEN he takes them to the finals 4 years later on a team that had no business winning.

THEN He wins them another cup in 93 against the greatest player of all.


His wins on the Avalanche were ok, but I mean.. they were so stupidly stacked, they probably could have won at least one without him.


I mean, I assume a few people who started watching hockey after 2001, think Dominik Hasek is remembered as a Wing.

 

[Shinjuku Calling]

Avs AINEC in my sphere.

 

[Mike8]

Objectively, pretty clearly Montreal.

He emerged as an NHLer and as a superstar in Montreal. His best seasons were in Montreal and cemented himself as one of the greatest goaltenders of all time in Montreal. He then went on to play well on a dynasty-calibre club in Colorado and it's only recency bias that would tip the scales in Colorado's end. For any memorable moment in Colorado, he had a handful in Montreal.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I remember him as a Rempart.

 

[Bondurant]

I am pushing 40 and a Wings fan. Most of my Roy memories is as an Av. From a historical and overall hockey fan perspective Roy is a Hab. No debate in my eyes.

 

[generalshepherd141]

I understand why a bunch of people are saying the Habs here, but with the Avs, Roy was a key component of one of hockey's best rivalries EVER. Hockey in the late 90s-early 2000s was Avs v Wings, so that's why I side with the Avs here.

Yes, he obviously made a name for himself with Montreal, but when you take into consideration the legendary battles his Avs teams had with the Wings, that's why I side slightly with Colorado. It's not entirely fair, but in Montreal he carried some mediocre Habs teams whose rivalries at the time didn't carry nearly the significance of Colorado-Detroit.

 

[ricky0034]

i'd say Avs

but as a Wings fan i'm pretty biased here

i'm also in my early 30s so i'm sure age is a factor as well