DangleCity
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Gut reaction is he is not a HOFer, but if he amasses enough numbers he may have a shot. I usually like to go with my gut reaction though
I am curious. In the Crosby Ovechkin era what hardware should he have gotten?
I don't get this post. What's that have to do with anything?
I think Backstrom will probably get in. Less so for peak/accomplishments than for consistency/longevity, but he's borderline. But Ovechkin hitting 895 or not has no real bearing on Backstrom's status as a hall of famer.
At least if you had said something relevant like 'if he wins one more cup' it could make sense.
Lots of other players at that level took home hardware in this era though. Perry, H.Sedin and Hall won Hart trophies. St.Louis, Benn, and both Sedins won Art Rosses. D.Sedin won a Lindsay. I don't think it's a case of "should" for a player like Backstrom, as timing and having an "everything going right" season are huge factors for non-Crosby/Ovechkin level players, but having that award peak certainly helps a player. Using Henrik Sedin as an example, Backstrom has had more good seasons as a number 1C at this point, and will likely pass him in points, but I'd say Henrik would be more likely to make the hall if we were to give them odds, mainly due to his Art Ross and Hart. Backstrom has a good chance of getting in anyway, but a season like that would make him that much more likely.
The basic fact is that Backstrom is never going to outscore Ovechkin. Has Malkin won hardware in a season Crosby played a full season?
Uh ya, first ballot.
I think he'll make it in and I think he deserves it but there's a lot of guys ahead of him in the queue and he is as far from 1st ballot as you'll get.
From where did you get this number?He assisted on 45% of all Ovechkin goals in his career.
From where did you get this number?
Ovechkin scored 730 goals.
Backstrom primary assisted 134 goals and 135 were secondary assists.
So overall Backstrom assisted 269 goals which is only 36.8% (not 45%)
Not that it matters for this thread, but the Sedins will both make the HOH . And, yes. that’s because of hardware to a large extent. Arguments like “If you let x in then y, z …..and … could also get in.” Just doesn’t work. Open the door for players with an Art Ross and a Hart / Lindsay won’t make it particularly crowded.Lots of other players at that level took home hardware in this era though. Perry, H.Sedin and Hall won Hart trophies. St.Louis, Benn, and both Sedins won Art Rosses. D.Sedin won a Lindsay. I don't think it's a case of "should" for a player like Backstrom, as timing and having an "everything going right" season are huge factors for non-Crosby/Ovechkin level players, but having that award peak certainly helps a player. Using Henrik Sedin as an example, Backstrom has had more good seasons as a number 1C at this point, and will likely pass him in points, but I'd say Henrik would be more likely to make the hall if we were to give them odds, mainly due to his Art Ross and Hart. Backstrom has a good chance of getting in anyway, but a season like that would make him that much more likely.
3 Cup wins, and will likely be top-3 in wins, playoff wins, shutouts, and playoff shutouts. He's currently already 3rd in wins, 4th in playoff wins, 3rd in playoff shutouts. He's currently 15th in regular season shutouts, but 10 more would bring him into the top 10, and 20 more would bring him to 4th.I see no reason to keep him out based on who is In.
I mean it seems everyone is putting MAF in now and I think that is weak
Compiler but yes. The cup cemented it.