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If not, what kind of player would you categorize him as?
6'0 190lb centre? Nah, not a powerforward. He's a gritty two-way player, but isn't exactly throwing huge punishing checks out there, or using strength/size to dominate in the corners.
He's a first/second line two-way player with a bit of sandpaper. He approaches underrated territory offensively from time to time.
He's a two-way center and an agitator, not a power foward.
Pest with some pop.
lmao for some reason i read that as "poop" hahaaaa
"pest with some poop"
Power forward? No. He's a skilled pest with a good two way game. He doesn't have the size to muscle his way to the net.
A 6 foot (probably an inch or two less than that) power forward?
He's emerged as a pretty darn good player though. The type you like to have on your team and hate to play against.
Just goes to show how you can't really judge prospects for a few years. He's really emerged the last couple of years.
No, definitely not.
I assume he metabolizes like every good NHL player.
Closest thing is that he plays the net-front role on the PP and scores a bunch of greasy goals there.
Kadri's a skilled two-way forward that can play a chippy game.
Back in the day, one could say Doug Gilmour was a gritty forward in that game in and game out he was going to give as good as he got all game long and usually had a physical affect on the game most nights. Kadri seems much more selective. Does that mean he couldn't play as gritty a game as Gilmour did? Not necessarily, but his style seems to be much more selective.
Mats Sundin had the tools to be a power forward much in the same way I suspect Kadri has all the tools to be a gritty two way skilled centre, but Sundin also was much more selective. Now mind you, when Sundin decided he was a power forward...He looked like a power forward to me. But that wasn't his m.o....Especially with the likes of Eric Lindros in the league for comparison.
So, no, Kadri's neither a power-forward nor a gritty player in the definitions I grew up with...But does he have a physical side to a largely skilled, chippy game? Sure.
And there's nothing wrong with it.
It makes my soul happy to know that Nazem Kadri panned out for the Leafs. We stuck by the kid and he has turned into an elite 3C. Solid 2 way shutdown game with 30 goals to boot. He's no power forward though. He is a guy that plays bigger than his size and he likes to throw his weight around every now and then. He also has very good hands and puck handling abilities. He's a huge pest that can cross the line every once in a while (tho he hasn't done it much if at all since Babs came over).
Good ol' Canadian kid from London Ontario. ****ty that he was a Habs fan growing up but I guess kids are allowed make mistakes.
That was my reasoning for asking the question. His shot generation and where he scores from lines up with what you expect from a power forward.
Even if you look at more typical stuff. Hits, draws penalties, aggravates, does most things you expect from a PF.
Maybe it's time we rethink what we define as a power forward.
All of those things you described defines a pest/agitator. Is Brad Marchand also a power forward? He just plays a chippy game, doesn't make him a power forward
Power forward? Definitely not what I'd label Kadri.
An elite 3C, hes definitely a 1/2 right now.
And there shouldnt be a thing such as an elite 3C.
That's how we've ran things for a couple year now. Kadri and Komo are our designated shutdown pair too so I think it's fair to assume that's the 3rd line since most shutdown C play on the 3rd lines along with players like Komarov.
Bozak above Kadri
On what planet is a 30G 60P two way C a 3rd liner behind Tyler ****ing Bozak.
Call him what you want..........to the opposition he is a royal PITA. The Toronto organization seemingly wanted to run him out of town and the new regime made him a player. I like his game a lot.
Babcock's planet. Where Zach Hyman is also a #1 LW.
Not even really close to a power forward. When I think of power forward, I start with body type. At step zero he's already lost me.
Kadri's not a "power forward"...now, in the past, or in the future.
What a ridiculous thread. My god.
He's a finesse player with a chippy agitator pesty edge to him. Nothing like any reasonable definition of a power forward.
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