Is Morgan Rielly a legit #1 D-man? As in legit top 15 D-man in the league?
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voted no, but only because you have to be one of the league's 15 best defencemen to be a "#1 dman" in poll. which is not the case.
Rielly isn't an absolutely elite player, but he's inarguably(counting and derived stats) in the very good next tier overall.
Rielly isn't an absolutely elite player, but he's inarguably(counting and derived stats) in the very good next tier overall.
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So Josi isn't a #1D? What about Tavares and Malkin, are they #1C's? Does Vancouver or Ottawa get a spot on the list since your number is by team?
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this is wildly missing the point. he's saying the top 31 defensemen league wide are #1 defensemen. not that the best defenseman on a team is a #1
Awesome Dman. "Elite"would depend on your definition, but he's not elite to me.
Philly's defense is enormously overated. Flyers fans have spent years chirping out how great their defense is, but they're near the basement in terms of giving up goals. And not ALL of that is on the goalies.
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firstly, no they aren't. I "lumped" Rielly with Klingberg because the person I was responding to had them in the same tier below the other group
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31 teams, 31 top spots.
Really not that hard to comprehend.
And yes, John Tavares is a #1 C and was a free asset to my team.
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For sure, Tavares is one of our two #1C's.
But in fairness..........just because there are 31 teams, that doesn't mean there are 31 #1D's out there.
Ottawa has no #1D on their team(no #1C either but that's another thread). Neither does Vancouver, Detroit, Colorado, NYR, Edmonton or Anaheim.
That's a bunch of teams without that clear-cut #1D on the roster. To offset that, teams like Nashville and San Jose have several.
Toronto is lucky to have Rielly. He's a #1D for sure.
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Be careful, that may make too much sense on here lol HFBoards cannot deal with such things.
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Cool. Ghost, Barrie, and Yandle aren't on anyone's top 15 either. Klingberg and Carlson are also borderline so of the 11 guys on your list, less than half are fairly unanimously considered top 15 defenders.
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Well I voted no because the title said top 15 and there are a lot of candidates for that list
Karlsson
Doughty
Hedman
Subban
Burns
OEL
Jones
Suter
Josi
Giordano
Pietrangelo
Klingberg
Carlson
Vlasic
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Weber? / Lindholm? Keith?
Idk about the last spot atm, the question marks mean I'm unsure of where to slot them now. Rielly is for sure an option but its a topic for debate.
I'm not just hopping on the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately train like a goldfish.
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I don't know if I agree with the top 15 parameter, but he's definitely a 1D.
He might be both, I haven't really thought about it.
He might be both, I haven't really thought about it.
