Is Mantha a play driver?

[HOPE]

Simple poll.

nothing wrong with either answer, you need the two types of players to make a competitive and effective team.

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[CantLoseWithMatthews]

he was just #1 in the league in relative cf% and relative xGF%, so it would be very weird to say he doesn't drive play for his team

 

[HOPE]

he was just #1 in the league in relative cf% and relative xGF%, so it would be very weird to say he doesn't drive play for his team

So by these metric, you considered Pacioretty a play driver when he was an Habs? ( i’m refering to the him beings an Habs because i haven’t followed him closely since).

 

[Dr Salt]

Considering his xG it would be wrong to say he isn't a play driver

 

[Gurglesons]

If Mantha wasn't injured all the time I think he'd be viewed as a Tom Wilson level power forward.

 

[jetsforever]

play driver

 

[Fire Benning]

If Mantha wasn't injured all the time I think he'd be viewed as a Tom Wilson level power forward.

huh?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I despise them term ‘play driver’. how do you even define it?

Even the latter term, who are some prototypical ‘complimentary players’?

 

[Machinehead]

Objectively, yes.

 

[hockeynorth]

I despise them term ‘play driver’. how do you even define it?

Even the latter term, who are some prototypical ‘complimentary players’?

A) Artemi Panarin
B) Chris Kreider

 

[HOPE]

A) Artemi Panarin
B) Chris Kreider

This.
A play driver is someone who carrys the puck, controle the pace and what is going to happen.

complimentary player will possesion himself, work around the net, create space, win board battles.

Panarin is indeed one of the best play driver, Kane, Kucherov, Barzal etc. I realy fail to understand how someome would qualify Mantha as a play driver. He’s the pure definition of a complimentary winger, wich theres nothing wrong with, it’s very valuable.

 

[Just Linda]

Why is it always a Habs fan making these...

 

[WingsMJN2965]

If Mantha wasn't injured all the time I think he'd be viewed as a Tom Wilson level power forward.

Err...

... Mantha produces at a way higher rate than Wilson.

 

[Gurglesons]

Err...

... Mantha produces at a way higher rate than Wilson.

I wonder why..?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

This.
A play driver is someone who carrys the puck, controle the pace and what is going to happen.

complimentary player will possesion himself, work around the net, create space, win board battles.

Panarin is indeed one of the best play driver, Kane, Kucherov, Barzal etc. I realy fail to understand how someome would qualify Mantha as a play driver. He’s the pure definition of a complimentary winger, wich theres nothing wrong with, it’s very valuable.

You're defining it differently from those with whom you're arguing. You're defining a "play-driver" as somebody who generally assumes the role of the primary puck carrier on their line.

Most other people define a play driver as a player who has a strong positive impact on their team taking more shots and quality shots than their opponent. Using that definition, Mantha is indisputably a high end play-driver.

 

[Regal]

I wonder why..?

Because he's clearly more talented?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Because he's clearly more talented?

Right? What the f*** was that even supposed to suggest?

 

[Gurglesons]

Because he's clearly more talented?

Nah. Because he never makes it through a regular season.

Love Mantha and he has the ability to be the best player on the ice, but sways in and out through the season.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Nah. Because he never makes it through a regular season.

You literally qualified your Wilson comparison with the condition that Mantha stayed healthy...

 

[Gurglesons]

You literally qualified your Wilson comparison with the condition that Mantha stayed healthy...

Yeah, Mantha would be viewed as a Tom Wilson / Josh Anderson level power forward if he could make it through a season. Correct, this is what I said. As for now, he's a player that gets injured ever year and flirts with 50 pts.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Yeah, Mantha would be viewed as a Tom Wilson / Josh Anderson level power forward if he could make it through a season. Correct, this is what I said. As for now, he's a player that gets injured ever year and flirts with 50 pts.

Then explain the, "I wonder why", comment about Mantha producing at a higher rate than Wilson, because you're moving in circles at this point.

"Mantha could be a Josh Anderson-level power forward if he could make it through a season", is one of the funnier statements that's ever been made on HF... And that's a broad list.

 

[Gurglesons]

Then explain the, "I wonder why", comment about Mantha producing at a higher rate than Wilson, because you're moving in circles at this point.

"Mantha could be a Josh Anderson-level power forward if he could make it through a season", is one of the funnier statements that's ever been made on HF... And that's a broad list.

Mantha's PPG is skewed because he never plays a full season. That is what I'm saying.

 

[deca guard]

its play maker or goal scorer or complimentary player . mantha is more valuable than a complimatary player and just as valuable as many play makers . complimentary players are guys that dont score alot or carry the puck up , they do other things like crashing net and hounding opponants

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Mantha's PPG is skewed because he never plays a full season. That is what I'm saying.

Right. Reasonable to assume that a guy who put up 38 points in the 43 games he played would've only scored 6 more in the next 25 games to match Wilson's production...

Use your head.

Also, way to abandon ship on that Josh Anderson comment.

 

[Syckle78]

Mantha's PPG is skewed because he never plays a full season. That is what I'm saying.

First time I've seen a pens fan try to make this argument. Interesting.