Is Karlsson having a Norris type of season?
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Asquaredx2
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I don't think so. He started inconsistently, although on the other hand it's better to finish strong than to tail off. Last season he won the defence man scoring title by a fair margin and didn't get a nomination. My sense of it is that the team's success plays a role in affecting how the media votes. The year Karlsson won was also a year we surprised everyone by making it to the playoffs (on his and Spezza's backs). Last season he had a statistically comparable year offensively (albeit he was well in the minus side) but the team disappointed. If we can sneak into the playoffs and his play keeps up then I think he will get a nomination.
I think Weber is a strong candidate because the Preds have been such a surprise this season. Plus I imagine the media feels like they owe him one given his reputation. But perhaps Josi's success will work against him. Letang, PK, and Burns are in the running too. Giordano would be up there if he hadn't been injured.
I think Weber is a strong candidate because the Preds have been such a surprise this season. Plus I imagine the media feels like they owe him one given his reputation. But perhaps Josi's success will work against him. Letang, PK, and Burns are in the running too. Giordano would be up there if he hadn't been injured.
Keeps playing like this for rest of season and maybe he gets a finalist spot, but Letang and Weber should be there, have been good to excellent since the start of the year. The third spot should have been Gio's but now could be a mix of several guys with Doughty probably getting a good look.
It's funny though on the main boards, the biggest point for Subban was that he's been really good for last 30 games, but when same is said for Karlsson it gets dismissed even though he's been better for the last 41 games i think it is.
Either way probably right now looking like
Weber/Letang
Doughty/Karlsson/Subban/Josi
Sportsnet and CBC love to pimp out Subban so wouldn't be surprised he gets some unearned votes over others who have played better.
Last part, has anyone every watched a american stream of a sense game? Seems like every time i do they just love Karlsson and how he plays the game.
It's funny though on the main boards, the biggest point for Subban was that he's been really good for last 30 games, but when same is said for Karlsson it gets dismissed even though he's been better for the last 41 games i think it is.
Either way probably right now looking like
Weber/Letang
Doughty/Karlsson/Subban/Josi
Sportsnet and CBC love to pimp out Subban so wouldn't be surprised he gets some unearned votes over others who have played better.
Last part, has anyone every watched a american stream of a sense game? Seems like every time i do they just love Karlsson and how he plays the game.
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No
He's on a tear and has been since about mid-December but he was far from excellent prior to that
He's on a tear and has been since about mid-December but he was far from excellent prior to that
HavlatMach9
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If he continues to put up points and plays well, and we sneak into the playoffs, then as being a former Norris winner, it should create a good impression upon the media who vote.
Even with his slow start he's worthy of a nomination. He's at the top of the list in D scoring and his defensive play has been excellent since Cameron has took over. At this point in time there are better choices for the Norris, but he still has a shot.
If he continues his near PPG stretch of play until the end of the season, and the Sens make the playoffs, I could see him winning the Norris again, deservedly so. Other than that he probably gets passed on for a guy like Weber, who is long overdue for a win.
If he continues his near PPG stretch of play until the end of the season, and the Sens make the playoffs, I could see him winning the Norris again, deservedly so. Other than that he probably gets passed on for a guy like Weber, who is long overdue for a win.
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If he leads the pack by 10+ points and the Sens make the playoffs I think he has a real case for it.
Everyone is talking about PK being right up there and he was significantly worse to start the season.
Everyone is talking about PK being right up there and he was significantly worse to start the season.
Here I Pageau Again
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Definitely not. But he's finally playing like a Norris like defensemen.
If he can play like this for an entire year -- then definitely he will be a consideration for the Norris. I think this year he was a bit too late to the party.
If he can play like this for an entire year -- then definitely he will be a consideration for the Norris. I think this year he was a bit too late to the party.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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The way I see it is like this:
First 30 games: He was average at best, below average even.
Last 30 games: He's been up and away the best defender in the league, absolute monster.
Therefore you'll see some people say his poor start will not allow him to win the Norris while others will, with good reason, claim his last 30 games, and how dominant he has been relative to ever else, has brought him back into conversation.
IMO, it depends on last 15 games. If he plays like he did past 30 he'll get nomination for sure and maybe win if Sens make playoffs.
Remember that Perry won his hart and whatnot after monster second half where he was ii for first half.
Just cause Karlsson had slow start you still can't discredit the ridiculous tear he's been on lately. Look at my post in mainboard how he's been relative to other top defenders, at a tier of his own.
First 30 games: He was average at best, below average even.
Last 30 games: He's been up and away the best defender in the league, absolute monster.
Therefore you'll see some people say his poor start will not allow him to win the Norris while others will, with good reason, claim his last 30 games, and how dominant he has been relative to ever else, has brought him back into conversation.
IMO, it depends on last 15 games. If he plays like he did past 30 he'll get nomination for sure and maybe win if Sens make playoffs.
Remember that Perry won his hart and whatnot after monster second half where he was ii for first half.
Just cause Karlsson had slow start you still can't discredit the ridiculous tear he's been on lately. Look at my post in mainboard how he's been relative to other top defenders, at a tier of his own.
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DrEasy
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There's been a bit of a downturn since the game where he ended up playing 33 minutes. May need to get his ice time down again.
NyQuil
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Karlsson plays in a Canadian market so his early season struggles are hardly unnoticed.
The benefit of a guy like Weber playing in Nashville is that no one ever points out his mistakes or bad games.
The benefit of a guy like Weber playing in Nashville is that no one ever points out his mistakes or bad games.
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We just need to have Glenn Healey calling Sens-Leafs games. Then Karlsson is Bobby Orr mixed with Wayne Gretzky on steroids and meth... Even if he is just trolling the Leafs.
no, unfortunately..just too much of an average start to the season which put a dent in any chance he might have had.
He's been great for us the past 30-35 games though
He's been great for us the past 30-35 games though
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No. Too inconsistent this year and started off very slow. However I still say he is the best offensive defensemen overall.
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