Is Jim Benning the worst GM in the league?

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Is Jim Benning the worst GM in the league?

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  1. Vancouver_2010

    Vancouver_2010 Go Canucks & Oilers

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    As a Canucks fan, i wonder what does the fan from the rest of the league think of Jim Benning? If he isn't, then who can possibly be doing a worse job than him?
     
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    I think at the moment Dorion and Bergevin are definitely worse and Holland also comes close. Benning has earned his reputation but imo is far from the worst GM in the league.
     
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    DieTomi Auston "50 Goals" Matthews

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    No he's not the worst GM in the league c'mon shaddup
     
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    Nah. Dorion holds that title imo.
     
  5. HockeyGuruPitka

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    I voted yes.

    Commit to at least one year of tank rather then constantly hitting in the 5-10 range at the draft. This leaves you at risk of drafting the Juolevi's and Virtanen's of the world.

    He keeps signing rental players to 4+ year contracts, making them next to impossible to flip at the deadline for value.

    Sort out the culture within the org before exposing the young players. Team needs to draw a line in the sand and start moving forwards. Identify guys that you dont see as a part of the future of the organisation and move on. Also identify past mistakes, own them, learn from them, and move on from them.

    Address the need for new scouting. You have to hit on picks in the top 10. Virtanen and Juolevi simply cannot happen in todays NHL. Need more players coming out of the later rounds. And the guys that do come out of the later rounds, need to be playing for the Canucks and not anyone else.
     
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    Dorion has passed him.
     
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    I dont think he is allowed to commit to a tank, his hands are tied with that regards considering who the owners are.
     
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    To be fair to Dorion he’s Melnyks puppet but agreed
     
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    Nope, he was handcuffed by ownership to not go for a full rebuild and has come away with some elite young players that will turn the Canucks around
     
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    I wouldn't want to accept a role in which i couldn't have full autonomy. At the end of the day, he has to wear whatever restrictions he accepted when he took the job.

    JFJ had to wear the failures of the Leafs even though he had his hands tied. Problem was he accepted the role knowing this was the case. His career was ruined and hes only just getting back into the fold.
     
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    People will vote no because other GM’s have made worse “big moves.”

    But Jim Benning far surpasses any GM in terms of death by a million paper cuts.

    A guy like Dorian or Bergevin loses a million dollars in a single hand so people think that they’re the worst gamblers in the casino.

    Jim Benning loses 100k every hand, loses 10x more hands than other GM’s, and has been gambling with the Canucks assets for almost five years now.

    I’d say that’s a lot worse than a guy who blew a couple of big pot games.
     
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    I'd probably say Bergevin, Dorion, and Chiarelli are all worse.
     
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    He's in the bottom 5, absolute buffoon
     
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    Yes
    The other worst ones at least have a vision and committed to rebuilds even if they managed teams poorly, teams like Edmonton at least compiled players who should’ve been impressive but other factors such as player development stunted then. Benning is an absolute bozo with no vision who signs aging players to ridiculous contracts and thinks his team is good enough to compete.
     
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    yes he is
     
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    chiarelli is the only one that might top him

    dorion and bergevin are not as incompetent

    sad how the bruins front office is ****ing up the league. Whoever drafted them bergeron marchand and lucic gave these 2 long careers
     
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    Don't know about you, but I feel like Dorion loses million dollar hands every trade he makes, i'm only gonna list the worst ones but he make 2 good trades in a 5th for Condon and Lazar for 2nd.

    Mika Zibanejad + 2nd (33rd Jonatan Berggren) for Derrick Brassard + 7th (194th Luke Loheit). <--- Just an awful trade get older and worse and lose a good pick in the process.

    Alex Burrows for Jonathan Dahlen. <--- Again just an awful trade to top it off Burrows had a full NMC and would only accept a trade to a team that would extend him, his value should have been a 7th with those kinds of conditions, this one was a massive win for Benning.

    Kyle Turris + Shane Bowers + Andrew Hammond + 2019 1st + 2018 3rd (64th Justus Annunen). for Matt Duchene <--- This one would not be as bad if it weren't for the fact that the 1st might be a top 5 pick, but imo Duchene is only a little better than Turris and certainly not 2 1st round picks better overall ****ty trade since COL flipped Turris for a nice package.

    Mike Hoffman + Cody Donaghey + 2020 5th for Mikkel Boedker + Julius Bergman +2020 6th. <--- Now Dorion was forced into this situation, but it's still a lost trade.

    Erik Karlsson + Francis Perron for Chris Tierney + Dylan DeMelo + Josh Norris + Rudolf Balcers + 2019/20 1st + 2019 2nd + 2 conditional picks <--- This trade alone make you the worse GM of the NHL for the next decade, it's not feeling as bad as it could atm because the team is doing ok but I don't even need to explain why this one is sooo bad GM's should be fired after this only reason he is not is because he is Melnyk's puppet.

    All of that was in a 2 year span, and if the 1st in the Duchene trade is a top 5 pick i'd say that was a whole lot more than a "million dollar hand" and the Karlsson trade is already looking like a 100 million dollar hand.
     
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    I don't think Benning is responsible for Canucks' drafting the past couple years, so I voted yes. Dorion doesn't really have a free hand as far as we know so he's hard to judge. Bergevin handles depth players much better and is closer to 50-50, which is still bad, especially since the bad moves typically involve star players. Chiarelli has a good case too, as a guy who walked into the perfect formula for a top flight contender and three years later still only has an average team. To be honest, there is a LOT of competition for this distinction.
     
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    Benning is closer to the best GM in the league.

    He might be the worst GM at managing public relations on twitter but at actually managing he’s done a very good job in Vancouver which is why most people support him.
     
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    Chiarelli is worse imo. And bergevin. Seems like they lose every trade and are always making the wrong move.

    Atleast benning has done some good like his drafting has been decent.
     
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    Wow! No words to reply to this post.

    Voted Benning the worst as I think HockeyGuruPitka absolutely nailed the key points. Athough there is some good arguments for Dorion. I still miss Gillis an his management group. Since Gillis has been gone, Aqualini can’t keep his grubby little hands from infecting and meddling with hockey operations.
     
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    Treliving, Dudley doo right, Chiarelli are all up there. Dorion and Benning in my opinion have their hand forced by ownership in a number of moves. They should still be accountable, but I don't know if it makes them the worst, when their owners tell them to do something and they do it.
     
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    HockeyGuruPitka’s post (I won’t even call it analysis) was totally clueless. He thinks the scouting department that took Boeser, Pettersson, Gaudette, etc. need to be replaced. Ridiculous and laughable.
     
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    Lmao
     
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