Is it too early to say that the Pacioretty trade is looking really, really bad?

[Tad Mikowsky]

If you need to start a thread asking if it’s too early to declare if a trade is bad, then it most likely is.

 

[DarrylshutzSydor]

where are the canadiens fans that defended Max Pac as being worth 2 1st rounders +more?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

where are the canadiens fans that defended Max Pac as being worth 2 1st rounders +more?

He got traded for more than that?
Suzuki is a high-mid 1st round pick, Tatar could definitely return a late 1st, and we got a 2nd round pick.

 

[MadLuke]

From my Habs fans point of view it is way way too early to say it is looking really bad, it is looking quite good.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

where are the canadiens fans that defended Max Pac as being worth 2 1st rounders +more?

They misremembered, last season wasn't just from being on a crappy team, he was just trash and already declining. Has been for years now. They've all been saying so.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

It's not even 10 games in, people really think the Habs are going to play better in the long run than Vegas?

Habs have a great goalie and are playing loose. I expect them to have some bad streaks for sure, but keep in mind, Weber could come back in December and really contribute as well.

Many people (myself included) expected before the season even started that Vegas might be in tough to make the playoffs this year.

Too many players over-acheiving from last season. Patches and Stastney for Perron and Neal is at best a wash.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Tatar wasn't a good fit in Vegas regardless of Pacioretty's lack of production.

Why wasn't he a good fit?

 

[InglewoodJack]

No, no one "knew" this would be a bad deal. Pacioretty is streaky, and Tatar came off an awful season. Tatar won't end with 70 points, and Pacioretty is still gonna get around 30 goals. As a habs fan, I'm glad we're the early winners, but I'd be shocked if this trade becomes a "fleecing".

 

[jetsforever]

It's still too early, but it always seemed like Vegas gave up too much. We'll see how it pans out.

 

[ThaDevilGirl]

Pacioretty is usually a slow starter, so I wouldn't be too concerned right now.

 

[Cellee]

Habs fans are emotionally attached to a guy who was never that good.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Probably. I dont even think my team is 10 games deep.

 

[Harry22]

Tatar had 36 points in 90 games last season..... yeah we're going to need to see a lot more to erase those horrific numbers.

And Pacioretty had 37 points last season.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I thought the trade was bad right when it was made. it definitely looks worse now since Patches isn't even performing though

 

[Cellee]

And Pacioretty had 37 points last season.

Montreal didn't want him back either, so...

I realize you are not saying MTL made a bad trade.

Just saying.

 

[Harry22]

No, no one "knew" this would be a bad deal. Pacioretty is streaky, and Tatar came off an awful season. Tatar won't end with 70 points, and Pacioretty is still gonna get around 30 goals. As a habs fan, I'm glad we're the early winners, but I'd be shocked if this trade becomes a "fleecing".

He won't reach 30 goals any more in his career is my opinion. He loses speed more and more every season. Barely scraped 30 goals 3 seasons ago, had a bump with Radulov and barely got 20 last year.

Mark my words.

 

[Gainesvillain]

And the best of it all?
IT ALL STEMS FROM CRAIG RIVET!!!!

That Craig Rivet trade was indeed epic for Montreal. The gift that keeps on giving & giving & giving....

But yeah, too early for a final verdict on Pacioretty for Tatar/Suzuki. Patches is a notoriously slow starter.

 

[Harry22]

Montreal didn't want him back either, so...

I realize you are not saying MTL made a bad trade.

Just saying.

Considering they didn't want him back and coming off his worst season in a long time, they got a very very solid return.

 

[Cellee]

I thought the trade was bad right when it was made. it definitely looks worse now since Patches isn't even performing though

I would have been more surprised if he was near a ppg.

 

[Cellee]

Considering they didn't want him back and coming off his worst season in a long time, they got a very very solid return.

They stole.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Pacioretty is a chronic slow starter. He's good from December through February. He's streaky too. He'll score 20 goals in 30 games and 15 in the other 50.

I still like the trade from Montreal's side, since it was time to move on from Pacioretty.

 

[Mathew Barzal]

Habs fans are emotionally attached to a guy who was never that good.

Why don't stick to the sub forum of whatever team you root for because uninformed opinions like this waste everybodys time.

 

[Cellee]

Why don't stick to the sub forum of whatever team you root for because uninformed opinions like this waste everybodys time.

Truth hurts for you so maybe stay in your bubble.

 

[Harry22]

People forget how speedy Pacioretty was just 3-4 seasons ago. He lost so much foot speed it's ridiculous.

 

[Critical13]

It's just way to early.

Vegas overpaid, we knew that from day 1. However, it looks horrendous right now and I expect that to even out a bit over the course of this season.