Is it time to panic?

JetsFan815

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The was a very important offseason and so far to a large extent it has not gone well.
  • Enstrom walks after there being reports of bad blood between him and the Jets.
  • No trades at the draft.
  • No 1st round picks.
  • Armia traded for nothing to get rid of the Mason contract.
  • Stastny does not re-sign inspite of all efforts otherwise, including cap space being cleared specifically for him.
  • Little will be our 2nd line C next season.
  • Hutch walks and the backup we sign has huge question marks.
  • Trouba goes to arbitration and is pretty much done as a Jet.
  • We are almost forced to be stuck with Myers for the foreseeable future, a guy many of us thought was just a servicable 3rd pairing D.
  • While Helle signed around market value and Lowry perhaps just a little above it, neither of these contracts have any discount.
At this point, I am concerned about making the playoffs let alone making a run at something. Also concerned about the long term future of this club, the blueline looks rough in the long term.
 

BB88

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The was a very important offseason and so far to a large extent it has not gone well.
  • Enstrom walks after there being reports of bad blood between him and the Jets.
  • No trades at the draft.
  • No 1st round picks.
  • Armia traded for nothing to get rid of the Mason contract.
  • Stastny does not re-sign inspite of all efforts otherwise, including cap space being cleared specifically for him.
  • Little will be our 2nd line C next season.
  • Hutch walks and the backup we sign has huge question marks.
  • Trouba goes to arbitration and is pretty much done as a Jet.
  • We are almost forced to be stuck with Myers for the foreseeable future, a guy many of us thought was just a servicable 3rd pairing D.
  • While Helle signed around market value and Lowry perhaps just a little above it, neither of these contracts have any discount.
At this point, I am concerned about making the playoffs let alone making a run at something. Also concerned about the long term future of this club, the blueline looks rough in the long term.

Jets have an elite team, one of the best in the league.

The longterm potential just saw a huge hit though.
 

mcpw

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The was a very important offseason and so far to a large extent it has not gone well.
  • Enstrom walks after there being reports of bad blood between him and the Jets.
  • No trades at the draft.
  • No 1st round picks.
  • Armia traded for nothing to get rid of the Mason contract.
  • Stastny does not re-sign inspite of all efforts otherwise, including cap space being cleared specifically for him.
  • Little will be our 2nd line C next season.
  • Hutch walks and the backup we sign has huge question marks.
  • Trouba goes to arbitration and is pretty much done as a Jet.
  • We are almost forced to be stuck with Myers for the foreseeable future, a guy many of us thought was just a servicable 3rd pairing D.
  • While Helle signed around market value and Lowry perhaps just a little above it, neither of these contracts have any discount.
At this point, I am concerned about making the playoffs let alone making a run at something. Also concerned about the long term future of this club, the blueline looks rough in the long term.

You've been in a constant state of panic since 2012.

It's time to panic if Myers is extended for over $5M per.
 

brock0791

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Enstrom shouldn't have been back at any price because Niku needs to play at least 40 games this year so he's not completely thrown into the fire when Myers walks.

We don't have a single contract on the books the Jets would walk away from right now.

We have 1 elite center 2 average 2c's (40-50 pts) and a very good 3c... don't worry about Little

There's still ELC help coming

The fact that Chevy even signs players at market value with the perceived market handicap he's working with is a plus. Signing players during Jets 1.0 with no cap was a nightmare
 
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ffh

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The was a very important offseason and so far to a large extent it has not gone well.
  • Enstrom walks after there being reports of bad blood between him and the Jets.
  • No trades at the draft.
  • No 1st round picks.
  • Armia traded for nothing to get rid of the Mason contract.
  • Stastny does not re-sign inspite of all efforts otherwise, including cap space being cleared specifically for him.
  • Little will be our 2nd line C next season.
  • Hutch walks and the backup we sign has huge question marks.
  • Trouba goes to arbitration and is pretty much done as a Jet.
  • We are almost forced to be stuck with Myers for the foreseeable future, a guy many of us thought was just a servicable 3rd pairing D.
  • While Helle signed around market value and Lowry perhaps just a little above it, neither of these contracts have any discount.
At this point, I am concerned about making the playoffs let alone making a run at something. Also concerned about the long term future of this club, the blueline looks rough in the long term.
If only the jets had valimaki all would be well then
 
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AWSAA

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What is the right side of our D going to look like in 3 years?

Poolman....and ??????? :dunno:
 

Inflict

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Seriously though, most of those points are barely worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things. The ones of note:

-Sucks that Trouba and Chevy couldn't come to a long term deal. Just have to wait and see how things pan out (if Trouba extends or the return we get for him)
-Little is actually a very good 2C unless he regresses big time
-Myers is more than a serviceable 3rd pairing d-man and just because we didn't sign Trouba long term doesn't mean we are committing big money/term to Myers
-Backup goalies are cheap and we can roll the dice on Comrie or just trade/sign another one

At the end of the day, we are still a Stanley Cup contender and have a bright future ahead. Nothing has changed that fact so far.
 

Heldig

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Certainly not panic time but the team has regressed IMO. It is a long summer. Chevy has time. Still a playoff team but not necessarily a top contender. Trouba issue still to be resolved. That affects what Chevy does with Myers and the rest of the D. Can Roslovic fill a top 3 C role?
 
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The was a very important offseason and so far to a large extent it has not gone well.
  • Enstrom walks after there being reports of bad blood between him and the Jets.

Enstrom didn't walk. The Jets let him go. Do you see him signing anywhere else?

  • No trades at the draft.

Jet's are one of the top 3 teams in the league. Our prospects are nearly all NHL ready. For teams in our position trading for a player 3-5 years away isn't a top priority.

  • Armia traded for nothing to get rid of the Mason contract.

Shedding an albatross contract for cap space isn't "nothing"

  • Stastny does not re-sign inspite of all efforts otherwise, including cap space being cleared specifically for him.

Perhaps we created cap space to sign our RFA's? It's your assumption that trade was done simply for Stastny.

  • Little will be our 2nd line C next season.

Little is paid & performs at a 2nd line centre level. No issue here.

  • Sutch walks and the backup we sign has huge question marks.

Hutch isn't a Vezina candidate & has shown repeatedly that's he's incapable of coming of the bench cold & performing. Until he learns how to play at a high level with minimum actual game play he's a poor option as a #2

Trouba goes to arbitration and is pretty much done as a Jet.

He's obligated to the Jets for 2 more seasons. Gross overstatement.

  • We are almost forced to be stuck with Myers for the foreseeable future, a guy many of us thought was just a servicable 3rd pairing D.
Jet's have 3 RD under contract & been playing nice with them for just this eventuality, Trouba becoming a UFA in 2020. Thank god we have Myers. I'll add there isn't a team in the NHL other than Winnipeg where he plays 3rd pairing. You seem to think a Calder winner should be in the press box. Wrong!

  • While Helle signed around market value and Lowry perhaps just a little above it, neither of these contracts have any discount.
Both signed below many people's expectations. Bucky got Holtby numbers like many including myself predicted. Many had projected Lowry to be $500,000 more.

At this point, I am concerned about making the playoffs let alone making a run at something. Also concerned about the long term future of this club, the blueline looks rough in the long term.

Jets have ONLY lost Armia & players at or near their prime have gained a years experience. Scheifele, Connor, Laine, Ehlers, Trouba, Morrissey, Lowry, Tanev, Copp, Hellebyuck are all better not worse.

Wheeler just had the best season of his career. Byfuglien just played the best hockey of his career & put up Norris numbers over the last third of the season.

Jets are in great shape.
 
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Nate070

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Seriously though, most of those points are barely worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things. The ones of note:

-Sucks that Trouba and Chevy couldn't come to a long term deal. Just have to wait and see how things pan out (if Trouba extends or the return we get for him)
-Little is actually a very good 2C unless he regresses big time
-Myers is more than a serviceable 3rd pairing d-man and just because we didn't sign Trouba long term doesn't mean we are committing big money/term to Myers
-Backup goalies are cheap and we can roll the dice on Comrie or just trade/sign another one

At the end of the day, we are still a Stanley Cup contender and have a bright future ahead. Nothing has changed that fact so far.
Little is not a very good 2c. Maybe a very good 3c. I hope he proves me wrong though
 

Inflict

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Are we trying to win a Cup? Sure doesn't look like it if they're content with Bryan as the 2C.

Little is not a very good 2c. Maybe a very good 3c. I hope he proves me wrong though

Just what has little done to prove he is NOT a 2C? He's produced like a 1C for most of his career. Even when he had a down year last season he still produced 43 points.
 
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Little is not a very good 2c. Maybe a very good 3c. I hope he proves me wrong though

Stats say otherwise. Yes last season he was not one of the 10 best #2 centre men in the league. He'd still be in the top 20 however.

18 months ago he was the Jets #1. Scheifele only took that position after Little became injured.

If we get 2016-2017 season Little back next season, we have one of the top 5 #2 centres in the NHL & quite likely the best one defensively.
 

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