Matsun
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The same.
They are both insane and easily in top 25 players of all time.
Crosby is likely #8 or #9 in the HOH rankings, Malkin is likely somewhere in the #30 to #40 range. If you focused only on the last 3 to 4 seasons, then it becomes closer than what their careers have been.
Crosby was better in the playoffs but Malkin is better than Crosby lately imo. Malkin has 112 points (46+66) in his last 82 games, Crosby has 91 (29+62) and Kessel has 97 (39+58) in their last 82. In 2018 Malkin has more points than anyone including McDavid.
If I remember well, Malkin had 1 more Art Ross and 1 more CS (and what CS, one of the best CS run of all time) than Sid before the last 3-4 seasons....strange for someone who was supposedly so much weaker than Sid during that spell of time.
Oh and Malkin is definitely closer to #20 than to #30-40 in the HOH, just for the fact he has a HUGE case for being the best Russian player ever is a testament to that.
Malkin's been the best player of Penguins for a couple of years now.
Let's see:
Two years ago: Crosby - 2nd in points, Hart nominee, Conn Smythe winner
Couldn’t u say Mcdavid shut Crosby down 5v5 as well since he didn’t score 5v5? Mcdavid had as many points as Crosby that game and beats him head to head pretty handedly as far as points go. Crosby isn’t ever in a shutdown role, it should always be him outplaying his opponent (who would be in the shutdown role) since he is #1a/b in the world . Malkin is the one who usually lights up the oilers
As for Crosby vs malkin they are both 100pt guys when on their game. One can be better than the other on any given night
What’s a while? The 17-18 regular season?He has been for a while. Whenever he is healthy, he outshines Sid
I’m not saying I disagree with you, but during this season Malkin had 72 pts in 60 GP with a 28pts conn Smythe worthy run.
Then you are misremembering.
Top Ten Art Ross finishes up to 13/14
Crosby- 1,1, T2, T3, 3, 6
Malkin - 1, 1, 2
After 13/14
Crosby- 2, 3, 3
Malkin - 4
That doesn't really scream "equal" does it?
and mind you doesnt play vs other teams first lines because crosby is too busy doing thatAnd Mind you Malkin does not play the amount of minutes McDavid plays
Malkin was the with Crosby and OV as co-best players in the world (based on performances over a 2- 3 year period) after the 2009 season. He dropped down after mediocre,injury-filled seasons after that, He got back up there as co-best with Crosby after the 11/12 season but again dropped off after a mediorce season and injury-filled seasons.
I don't have an issue with him being viewed as better than Crosby if he outplays him again in the regular season and also in the playoffs.
and mind you doesnt play vs other teams first lines because crosby is too busy doing thatAnd Mind you Malkin does not play the amount of minutes McDavid plays
and mind you doesnt play vs other teams first lines because crosby is too busy doing that
And mind you, guess what, Malkin had his best season ever (and possibly the most dominant season by any player of the last decade) playing the whole year at first line and contrary to Sid with Geno, without even having had the luxury of having Sid in PP for 75% of the season.
Argument killed, next :p
Yeah, surely the kind of achievements people will remember in 20-30 years....
The only things people usually remember about a player and what makes the difference are the number of collective and individual trophies, the records set and eventually the career ppg.
It is interesting hen that Malkin had a higher PPG that season when Crosby was in the lineup for 22 games.
Argument killed.