Defense first was not his game, but now that he’s not tremendous offensively as he once was I am wondering if anyone still puts them in their “top 5 or top 10 dman in the game” list, and if not, where would you rank him? And why?
Defense first was not his game, but now that he’s not tremendous offensively as he once was I am wondering if anyone still puts them in their “top 5 or top 10 dman in the game” list, and if not, where would you rank him? And why?
I think people really underestimate how much of an adjustment it is to go from the Erik Karlsson Show to the Burnsy, Pickles & EK Trio.
Not uncommon for veterans who have been the top dog on their team for a while to struggle when transitioning to a team with other top dogs already running the show.
He isn't playing like one right now, but first trades can have a big impact on players.
If he still struggles next season, i think they conversation should be had. But he's still Erik ****ing Karlsson
Let’s make it simple. Can you name ten defencemen who you would rather have over Karlsson?
I’m not the one saying he’s not, I’m the one asking others what there opinion is.
I think he still can be the best in the game.
But if I tried? MAybe? Arguably one of these...
Hedman
Jones
Doughty (see petriangelo but maybe still)
Dahlin (for now and future)
Josi
Burns
PK
Carlsson
Krug
Petriangelo (not so much this year)
There are lots more who are arguable but if this is how he plays the test of his career I could name some more.
However if he gets his game back then no, maybe only to three of those guys would I pick for now and the future (probably dahlin and Hedman) and maybe one of doughty/Josi/Jones
But I wanted to know what others thought...
Jeff Marek says he gets beat wide constantly.Watching these GIFs, it’s clear to me that whatever issues Karlsson is having this season, his top end speed is not one of them.
This one looks like it’s photoshopped:
Yeah but Carey price is still Carey PRICE and while one can remain good can they remain great after a fall off, and by great I mean elite, which is what my question was.
And I don’t think it should take a guy thAt good an entire season to get his “overcoming A trade” (In reference to your if next year then....) but I agree he’s still got the tools I’m just not seeing it this year.
But Karlsson never had a "fall-off" though. He lead all D-men in points/gp last year on a terrible tire fire of a team. He's had a slow start this year, but he was still the best offensive d-man last year.Yeah but Carey price is still Carey PRICE and while one can remain good can they remain great after a fall off, and by great I mean elite, which is what my question was.
And I don’t think it should take a guy thAt good an entire season to get his “overcoming A trade” (In reference to your if next year then....) but I agree he’s still got the tools I’m just not seeing it this year.
Carey Price is not at Erik Karlsson’s level. Price had one fantastic season and a few good ones, Karlsson was unquestionably the best defenseman in the NHL over a 5 year period.