Is Don Cherry Still Relevant?

[joelef]

Don cherry good ole boy "play the game right" is reason why the NBA and even soccer are kicking the NHL @SS

 

[joelef]

Nope. No he isn't. He's always been right more than he's not. And a lot of the tried tested truisms of the game bear him out. Cherry's problem isn't his opinion on the game. His opinion on politics isn't a globalist one and therefore, his views are verboten, especially by interests that predominate much of Western educational institutions. And as such there's almost a biological imperative to stamp out anything resembling Cherry's nationalism.

And it's hilarious, because part of the notion is, he's a dinosaur in so many ways and therefore hates change and diversity, etc, etc...Hilarious because the existential enemy fought in the world wars is now the constant critic parroted on Twitter, Facebook, the news, YT and everywhere else there's "popular" opposition against views like his.

Note, I'm not saying he hasn't been wrong. Who hasn't been? I'm saying, the marketplace of ideas, like cities run by American democrats think he's dangerous and should be silenced and any counter opinion like his should likewise be silenced, irrespective of the extremity of the means that justifies accomplishing the goal.

It's blindness to think modernism vaccinates society against social ills. Remember, utopia is nowhere.

he hates fellows canadians in Quebec

 

[Legionnaire]

he hates fellows canadians in Quebec

No. He does not like the offense first, no physicality Quebec Major Junior style of play.

 

[joelef]

No. He does not like the offense first, no physicality Quebec Major Junior style of play.

He said bigotted things towards francophones

 

[Legionnaire]

He said bigotted things towards francophones

You mean at a time where Francophones were trying to pull away from the rest of Canada during the separatist movement?

Or do you have a specific example?

 

[joelef]

Jan. 24, 2004: Cherry's popular "Coach's Corner" segment featured a rant on the use of visors in the NHL, which prompted the commentator to say the protective gear was worn by wimps and usually sported by "Europeans and French guys." The comments were taken as a slur against Francophone Canadians, touched off criticism from numerous federal politicians and forced the CBC to temporarily implement a seven-second tape delay on his segments. Feb. 22, 1998: Cherry criticized Canada's choice of skier Jean-Luc Brassard as Olympic flag-bearer, calling him "a French guy, some skier nobody knows about." The CBC ombudsman would later rule that Cherry's comments crossed the line

 

[Legionnaire]

Jan. 24, 2004: Cherry's popular "Coach's Corner" segment featured a rant on the use of visors in the NHL, which prompted the commentator to say the protective gear was worn by wimps and usually sported by "Europeans and French guys." The comments were taken as a slur against Francophone Canadians, touched off criticism from numerous federal politicians and forced the CBC to temporarily implement a seven-second tape delay on his segments. Feb. 22, 1998: Cherry criticized Canada's choice of skier Jean-Luc Brassard as Olympic flag-bearer, calling him "a French guy, some skier nobody knows about." The CBC ombudsman would later rule that Cherry's comments crossed the line

The problem you see is the truth.

 

[PaulD]

Rather selective take. And which particular Montreal team are you referring to?

Cherrys best teams in the 70s. where 90 % of Cherry coaching career was spent.

 

[Legionnaire]

where 90 % of Cherry coaching career was spent.............the 70s teams

I know this isn't French. Is this a Czech?

 

[LaTenderness]

The problem you see is the truth.

French Canadians are the biggest studs and have chumped Donny his whole life..... no wonder he’s forever butt hurt.

 

[Legionnaire]

Maybe

 

[PaulD]

he hates fellows canadians in Quebec

I Doubt that

 

[ITM]

he hates fellows canadians in Quebec

What you don't know...Present tense: he, you don't know to a certainty. Hates? That extreme? You don't know in the present or past to a certainty, nor the how the why if at all. And then there's the rest of the generalization that demands scrutiny on a case by case examination, because that's true charity. And if you can't be charitable in your examination of a person's integrity/character, by God, don't whinge when the same generalized opportunistic model is applied to you, and it must because the rubric is designed for eventual self-annhilation. See The Canceling of JK Rowling.

Of note, you seem to be championing a rather generalized cause to hate him, a fellow Canadian, and a fellow Canadian with an exemplary record of material charity. The irony.

 

[ITM]

Cherrys best teams in the 70s. where 90 % of Cherry coaching career was spent.

The point of the question was, which team(s) did beat those Habs with any reasonable grounding to say they were better than Scotty Bowman? Might as well say, the Wings of the 70s couldn't beat Montreal with any regularity and affix it as the conversational bookend. Those Habs are questionably the greatest team to ever play. It's an unfair comparison. And even still, that Cherry won a Jack Adams while those giants skated the NHL is a testament to something approaching monumental accomplishment.

Kudos on your defense of him against indiscriminate hate posted by the other member.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Sportsnet needs to do the right thing here and bring him back. For better or worse, people tune in to see Don Cherry.

You don't fire a canadian icon. The legend should decide when it's time to quit.

Why? Even hate-watching him became boring.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

People should really read a history book before they label him anything...Yeah his opinion is outdated,but his generation had a little thing called the cold war...Where most eastern block countries didnt think to much about the west...Russia being the biggest one that had him likely practicing the duck and cover drill in school

The Cold War taught him to single out immigrants when talking about poppies.

Cool man.

 

[ITM]

The Cold War taught him to single out immigrants when talking about poppies.

Cool man.

Singling out just immigrants when talking about poppies, or immigrants and Canadians writ large who weren't buying poppies because of the programs and people they supported who just happened to be the people who have historically and routinely demonstrated the highest degree of sacrifice for Canadian society?

Doubtless, what Cherry and law enforcement and those serving in the military have forgotten about Canada is it's immigrant character while serving. Certainly what was needed was reminding and redefining what it means to be Canadian, because the previous generations' sacrifice hasn't been sufficient enough.

If the Cold War taught people like Cherry anything, it's that if you forget the cultural battle to fight outside battlefields you run the risk of losing the war over time. And time, and opportunism and the infiltration of the West into adapting relativism as it's driving cultural filter is precisely what has been waited for by it's long deceased social engineers.

And for context sake, it's the great wars Cherry referenced most. Masters being what they are, find out what you can't talk about and you'll find out who the real enemy is. And Cherry was never the enemy.

 

[Coffey]

Depends on how many NASCAR hats or camo hoodies you own.

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

god no! and good riddance

 

[heynowbababooey]

Should still have a job but stood no chance in todays lame pc culture. You people are unbearable.

 

[Iapyi]

Internet punk thugs still yelling at the clouds trying to make themselves relevant by lamely dishonouring an elder who has no opportunity to defend himself against their attacks. Shameful.

 

[Kreator]

NO

 

[Legionnaire]

Singling out just immigrants when talking about poppies, or immigrants and Canadians writ large who weren't buying poppies because of the programs and people they supported who just happened to be the people who have historically and routinely demonstrated the highest degree of sacrifice for Canadian society?

Doubtless, what Cherry and law enforcement and those serving in the military have forgotten about Canada is it's immigrant character while serving. Certainly what was needed was reminding and redefining what it means to be Canadian, because the previous generations' sacrifice hasn't been sufficient enough.

If the Cold War taught people like Cherry anything, it's that if you forget the cultural battle to fight outside battlefields you run the risk of losing the war over time. And time, and opportunism and the infiltration of the West into adapting relativism as it's driving cultural filter is precisely what has been waited for by it's long deceased social engineers.

And for context sake, it's the great wars Cherry referenced most. Masters being what they are, find out what you can't talk about and you'll find out who the real enemy is. And Cherry was never the enemy.

Why is "singling out "immigrants" when it comes to the poppy?

Yes, you can look at in the worst possible way as the current media may dictate to you.

However, it is also very inclusive. As in this is what we do so join us.

 

[Legionnaire]

Look, I LOVE Don Cherry and I wish he was still on the air but lets be real for a second; Cherry inserted his politics into his broadcasts more than any other NHL commentator by far. So in this case, I have to disagree. It's his own fault.

Fact is he's a Dinosaur when it comes to the game of hockey just as much as he is when it comes to the climate of modern society and in both cases he isn't afraid to if ignorantly bleat about it. But damn is it entertaining and I don't think he is an evil man who means ill. He's just 86 and grew up in a different era.

But the political talk when it comes to him is 100% his fault.

Was this vice production?

 

[Phil McKraken]

1:37 - lol We Swedes still can't catch a break with this guy huh. Who just won the Conn Smythe on that very team?



Also, Tampa won because of monster performances by Hedman, two small skilled forwards and the goalie.