Is Crosby still a top 10 player in your eyes?

[McFlyingV]

Yes.

 

[Regal]

How often are you going to push this narrative before you start to feel silly doing it? I get that Ovechkin's "controller disconnect" meme has broken your psyche, but stop projecting.

But didn't you know? Giving up shorthanded goals against means you're not good defensively, even if you play down low on the PP.

 

[Ms Maggie]

Eh maybe. He's fringe top 10 I suppose. 14th in points over the past 3 seasons, 32nd in goals.

He's got a nice offensive upside but he's a defensive liability (not that it matters because he really isn't asked to play much defense).

Defensive liability?

16 Stats: Changes in Montreal, Sidney Crosby for Selke, Alex Pietrangelo's start, Sabres woes

Yikes.

 

[TopChedder]

Sid is absolutely fantastic and absolutely still a top 10 player. His IQ is off the charts and he still does everything right. He maybe not the exact same player he once was, but there is not a single player I would add to my roster for a playoff run over him.

 

[StroShow]

guy is in the top 10 of scoring at age 33 and has his team at the top of the division while his team and co-star have been ravaged with injuries all year and we're asking if he's a top 10 player in the league? He's closer to #3 than he is to #10.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Top 10 forward? yes, definitely!

Top 10 player? Debatable.

 

[frisco]

"How many players would you rather have leading your team going into the playoffs"?, might be a good way to rephrase the question. I don't know if I had Crosby I'd swap him out in favor of McDavid.

My Best-Carey

 

[Holymakinaw]

Do you have him in your top 10?

For sure he is, I'd say. He's not quite what he was, but he can still deliver top-10 numbers and sill has those hands and the hockey smarts.

 

[king89]

Damn.

None of "Kane, Marner, Stone, Rantanen, Huberdeu, Barkov, Oreilly, Bergeron, Pastrnak" are above Crosby in any fashion.

Barkov is.

 

[Midnight Judges]

A lot of defensive liability last night 2:25

Sid was a disaster when he was watching a double-teamed Evgeny Kuznetsov set up a late 3rd period game-tying goal.

Stopping that play would have been easy for any player was decent at defense.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Sid was a disaster when he was watching a double-teamed Evgeny Kuznetsov set up a late 3rd period game-tying goal.

Stopping that play would have been easy for any player was decent at defense.

Imagine using one play (and I don't even know what play you're talking about) to define a player.

 

[Cotton]

Sid is the current day Joe Sakic, he’s going to be a top player until his last day.

 

[HotPie]

Sid was a disaster when he was watching a double-teamed Evgeny Kuznetsov set up a late 3rd period game-tying goal.

Stopping that play would have been easy for any player was decent at defense.

 

[wetcoast]

Imagine using one play (and I don't even know what play you're talking about) to define a player.

Why look at the whole picture to see the truth when cherry picking backs up a poor take?

 

[Holymakinaw]

Barkov is.

LOL. No. He's not.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Imagine using one play (and I don't even know what play you're talking about) to define a player.

Crosby has an entire career full of crappy defense to go on.

His career GA / 60 at ES is far from the players who are actually good at defense.

 

[North Cole]

Of course. What a question.

 

[zar]

Yes. How is this even being debated?

 

[AvroArrow]

Easily.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think 1 is obviously McDavid and MacKinnon and Draisaitl are debatable for #2 and #3. But beyond that, I really don't see a clear argument for any player definitely above Crosby. I'd probably put Matthews above Crosby after the year he has had, but this is the first year that Matthews has actually out-performed Crosby by a sizable margin. Maybe you can argue Panarin, but I think that argument is pretty stat-watchy, but that's really about it. I don't even see a legitimate argument for some of the names thrown out here.

You have a substantially stronger argument for Crosby being #5 than you have for Crosby being outside of the top-10.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Crosby has an entire career full of crappy defense to go on.

His career GA / 60 at ES is far from the players who are actually good at defense.

What about his save percentage though?

 

[excaliber]

Sid is easy top 10. I'd take him on my team any day of the week.

 

[grewalwings]

Without a doubt

 

[king89]

LOL. No. He's not.

Barkov has better PPG this season playing with worse linemates?? Take off your rose colored glasses and see things how they are.

 

[Midnight Judges]

What about his save percentage though?

Yeah I've heard that excuse before.

The goaltending for Crosby's career has been fine. Most of it was with a future hall of famer in net.