OT: Is Canada hosting the World Cup more bitter or sweet to British Columbians?
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Nobody cares about soccer in BC.
Its secondary to basketball, football, hockey in the high school scene.
Rugby is even starting to over take Soccer.
Its secondary to basketball, football, hockey in the high school scene.
Rugby is even starting to over take Soccer.
This is not even correct. Soccer trumps football for participation in BC/Canada - it's not close.
This is extra true for immigrant Canadians and children of immigrants. Football as an organized high school sport is only present in a handful of high schools per district.
What a ridiculously ignorant statement. The women's World Cup in 2015 was a success, and turnout was incredibly strong at the games at BC Place. The Whitecaps, despite being extremely mediocre in terms of their product, are constantly one of the best sporting environments to be a party of. With the amount of immigrant families that live not just here in Vancouver, but BC itself, it's popularity is continuing to grow.
To suggest nobody cares about it in BC, especially at the high school level, is absurd.
B.C. had none of the facilities needed and FIFA wanted a blank cheque paid for by our tax dollars, I'm glad it's not in B.C.
That’s horribly false, Soccer in North America is growing at a faster rate than ever before.
What a ridiculously ignorant statement. The women's World Cup in 2015 was a success, and turnout was incredibly strong at the games at BC Place. The Whitecaps, despite being extremely mediocre in terms of their product, are constantly one of the best sporting environments to be a party of. With the amount of immigrant families that live not just here in Vancouver, but BC itself, it's popularity is continuing to grow.
To suggest nobody cares about it in BC, especially at the high school level, is absurd.
Soccer will never be popular in Canada. The flopping and acting will never be accepted.
With TSN and Sportsnet losing all rights to broadcast European soccer in Canada, it will only diminish the interest.
MLS is a joke. Its kick and chase soccer. Very limited skill. Its like a retirement home for previous world class athletes like Henry Ibrahimovic Beckham but overall the qiality is soooo bad compared to Euro Soccer
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Flopping and acting? Well it’s already evident you hate and are biased against soccer but anyways, just because MLS is lower tier, doesn’t mean the World Cup wouldnt be success here.
Melvin
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I don't really follow soccer, but isn't the world cup basically a parasitic tournament of corruption that destroys its host cities?
I am sure they will host a few games in Seattle and those that really want to go can drive down the I5. I applaud Horgan for showing a little responsibility and not writing FIFA a blank cheque.
If Jim Benning and Trevor Linden are still in charge, maybe.
I love soccer, I love the World Cup, but I despise FIFA with every fibre of my being. The IOC might be as corrupt as FIFA, but that's about it. Glad we aren't kowtowing with our tax dollars to that horrible organisation.
I don't agree with John Oliver on everything, but this is a good take:
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I'm just glad BC had the good sense to stay away from those greedy FIFA assholes.
I hope the cities that agreed to FIFA's terms end of recouping most of their investments, instead of losing hundreds of millions of dollars for like a game or two. But I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic.
Plus let's face it, Canada's men's team will likely get blown out to an embarrassing degree. They really, really suck.
I hope the cities that agreed to FIFA's terms end of recouping most of their investments, instead of losing hundreds of millions of dollars for like a game or two. But I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic.
Plus let's face it, Canada's men's team will likely get blown out to an embarrassing degree. They really, really suck.
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no deals with FIFA. The gov did the right thing. Sadly we'll miss Panama vs Croatia or whatever trash tier match they would have given us.
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Pretty much. That's why most recent WCs have gone to corrupt regimes or dictatorships.
FIFA requires bribes and insane tax breaks/subsidies to become a host. While it would be nice to catch a match, the BC government did the right thing in not doing a deal with an organization rife with corruption and crime.
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Yeah at face value it's kind of disappointing, but when you consider all the corruption of FIFA and how much it would cost us I think having hosted the Olympics in 2010 is good enough. One of the things you want out of these types of global events is world-wide recognition for your city, and we got it there already.
Besides, what's the minimum games each team gets, 3? If that's the case then with Toronto/Montreal/Edmonton already in it one city is going to miss a team Canada game.
Besides, what's the minimum games each team gets, 3? If that's the case then with Toronto/Montreal/Edmonton already in it one city is going to miss a team Canada game.
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Spending $20 million to put grass in BC place for 3 preliminary games would not be a worthwhile investment.
People were acting like it's going to be some big party we would be missing. There would be 3... THREE games played here most likely.
Who's going to go watch Saudi Arabia vs Morocco? That's not going to get people into the downtown core to watch a game. This isn't the Olympics where it's a two week long event in one single place.
It would've been a god awful deal where security costs would be ridiculously astronomical and then we'd basically be slaves to FIFA and all of their garbage tactics. Not to mention they're immune to all taxes. People who are upset at this haven't thought this through at all.
Mike Smyth: Read FIFA’s shocking ‘Host City Agreement’ for the World Cup
Who's going to go watch Saudi Arabia vs Morocco? That's not going to get people into the downtown core to watch a game. This isn't the Olympics where it's a two week long event in one single place.
It would've been a god awful deal where security costs would be ridiculously astronomical and then we'd basically be slaves to FIFA and all of their garbage tactics. Not to mention they're immune to all taxes. People who are upset at this haven't thought this through at all.
Mike Smyth: Read FIFA’s shocking ‘Host City Agreement’ for the World Cup
- The deal states that “all taxes, duties and levies imposed directly or indirectly” on FIFA will be paid by the host city, and the host city “waives any and all claims of liability” against FIFA for loss or damages caused by FIFA.
- SECURITY: Notorious for going overbudget, security costs for the Cup would be huge, especially since the deal requires “the highest quality and standard” for the event.
- Safety, security and fire protection must be provided at stadiums and their surroundings, training sites, official hotels, the FIFA Fan Fest, airports, train stations, bus routes and elsewhere, the agreement states. The deal also demands “dedicated police protection for the participating teams, key representatives of FIFA, VIP guests and competition officials” with “further details” of the security plan to be worked out later.
- B.C. PLACE STADIUM: The agreement demands a “controlled area determined by FIFA” around the stadium, where the host city would be required to enforce FIFA’s commercial rights. That means a ban on unauthorized advertising and commercial activity within the protection zone. In Russia, the controlled area is a two-kilometre radius around stadiums.The deal also requires “sufficient redundant backup power grids to deal with any power failure at the stadium,” which would force the government to install a second, independent power supply at B.C. Place.
- FIFA would also be allowed to change the name of the stadium during the Cup
- TRANSPORTATION: The agreement requires 800 free parking spaces around the stadium for FIFA officials, free public-transit service for holders of game tickets and FIFA accreditation, and the right for FIFA to “restrict public access at any time” on any road and to demand “police escorts” for FIFA vehicles
- FIFA FAN FEST: This festival would be fully paid for by taxpayers and must include “power and water supply, cleaning, waste management, toilets, lighting, signage, first-aid and emergency services.”
- CITY MAKEOVER: “The host city shall use best efforts to render the public facilities and public spaces within the host city as attractive as possible during the competition period and shall, at its own expense, carry out the respective beautification measures,” including “temporarily covering and decorating construction sites.”
- NO TAXES FOR FIFA: The deal states that “all taxes, duties and levies imposed directly or indirectly” on FIFA will be paid by the host city, and the host city “waives any and all claims of liability” against FIFA for loss or damages caused by FIFA.
- ONE LAST THING: As if that’s not enough, FIFA reserves the right to change the agreement later by adding “multiple modifications and/or enhancements and/or additional requirements” to the deal.
