Is anyone else amazed at San Jose's german scouts?
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San Jose has pretty much all the Germans who have NHL upside.
It isnt like there are tonnes of German prospects floating around.
And most of the Germans San Jose took were picked higher than most thought they would be.
In other words they horded all the Germans.
It isnt like there are tonnes of German prospects floating around.
And most of the Germans San Jose took were picked higher than most thought they would be.
In other words they horded all the Germans.
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Sharks have not taken players out of Germany for the sake of being German.
No one can deny the results. 1996, Late 1st round round, look at what the Sharks got in Sturm in a horrible draft.
2001, Marcel Goc was a stout pick, He was amazing this year in Cleveland and in the playoffs for the Sharks. Christian Ehrhoff is going to be a top six defensman for the Sharks this season, and has the skill to be a force, top 4 defensman, he was a 4th round pick. Dimitry Patzold actually had a good year with a SVP around .913 but he lost a battle to a hot hot goalie in Nolan Scheafer.
Sharks went back to Germany in 2003. Patrick Ehelechner was a 4th round pick, and seems to be the best goalie taken from Europe. He was amazing this year in the OHL for the Wolves. Kai Hospelt is probally just as good as Marcus Kink and could make it to the AHL some day.
No one can deny the results. 1996, Late 1st round round, look at what the Sharks got in Sturm in a horrible draft.
2001, Marcel Goc was a stout pick, He was amazing this year in Cleveland and in the playoffs for the Sharks. Christian Ehrhoff is going to be a top six defensman for the Sharks this season, and has the skill to be a force, top 4 defensman, he was a 4th round pick. Dimitry Patzold actually had a good year with a SVP around .913 but he lost a battle to a hot hot goalie in Nolan Scheafer.
Sharks went back to Germany in 2003. Patrick Ehelechner was a 4th round pick, and seems to be the best goalie taken from Europe. He was amazing this year in the OHL for the Wolves. Kai Hospelt is probally just as good as Marcus Kink and could make it to the AHL some day.
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There not just the best Germans, there some of the best draft picks in thoses respected drafts/Rounds.
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Germany's an untapped resource as far as talent goes.
In 3-4 years time, there will be even better players coming out of there.
Especially stronger defenders and 2 way forwards.
In 3-4 years time, there will be even better players coming out of there.
Especially stronger defenders and 2 way forwards.
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Vlad The Impaler
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They do well with German prospects. That is hardly a big deal, however.
Many teams seem to have "favorite spots" and specialties. Some teams draft a lot in the WHL, some in the SEL. They all have their recipe for success and when you look at the drafting record of players actually making the NHL and having an impact, the Sharks don't stand out as being an ultimate force or anything.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's very cool that they do well in Germany but the point i, other teams are doing great elsewhere. They have obviously a good system over there and it takes ressources and talent. You just can't be great everywhere and all the time.
A couple of the players were unearthed but in the case of Marcel Goc, this is hardly a surprise. He was on everyone's radar at the time as a nice talent with great upside. An upside he will likely not achieve to the maximum. He's hardly a surprise gem.
None of this is to knock the Sharks. It is just to answer the title of the thread: No. I'm not amazed at SJ's German scout. I think he's doing good work, that's all.
I agree with the poster who mentions Germany is on the rise. I'm expecting an increase in quality from Germany in the next few years, as well as 1-2 other nations as well. Internationally, hockey is in VERY good shape and the more countries get up to speed, the more we all benefit.
Many teams seem to have "favorite spots" and specialties. Some teams draft a lot in the WHL, some in the SEL. They all have their recipe for success and when you look at the drafting record of players actually making the NHL and having an impact, the Sharks don't stand out as being an ultimate force or anything.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's very cool that they do well in Germany but the point i, other teams are doing great elsewhere. They have obviously a good system over there and it takes ressources and talent. You just can't be great everywhere and all the time.
A couple of the players were unearthed but in the case of Marcel Goc, this is hardly a surprise. He was on everyone's radar at the time as a nice talent with great upside. An upside he will likely not achieve to the maximum. He's hardly a surprise gem.
None of this is to knock the Sharks. It is just to answer the title of the thread: No. I'm not amazed at SJ's German scout. I think he's doing good work, that's all.
I agree with the poster who mentions Germany is on the rise. I'm expecting an increase in quality from Germany in the next few years, as well as 1-2 other nations as well. Internationally, hockey is in VERY good shape and the more countries get up to speed, the more we all benefit.
Vlad The Impaler
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Don't forget Christoph Gawlik, who could be one of the rising stars in German hockey...he played with 16 the last season in the DEL for Mannheim and could be a first-rounder. 
Tronador said:Don't forget Christoph Gawlik, who could be one of the rising stars in German hockey...he played with 16 the last season in the DEL for Mannheim and could be a first-rounder.
Maybe the Sharks will trade up to get him.
The Flyers have Seidenberg.
The Senators have Schubert.
The Capitals have Müller.
The Predators have Sulzer.
Tronador said:..and the Coyotes have Eduard Lewandowski.
HF doesn't really think high of him. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/team.php?team=13
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There are more teams like that.. The Wings have a hard on for Swedes, drafting at least 3 every draft. The Stars fancy everything that's coming out of Finland, The Sens nearly draft everything out of Europe..
BTW, are we finally allowed to gossip about Mizral in public now?
BTW, are we finally allowed to gossip about Mizral in public now?
Jay Thompson said:
plus the Sharks have (spelling will be wrong) Patrick Elecshener goalie for Sudbury, he is an amazing goalie IMO and was underrated in his draft, seen him play at the World Juniors for Germany here in Halifax and he was amazing.
Shark`s Director of Hockey Operations is very high on German guys. On the other hand he doesn`t like Swiss players. It is all about preferences. You can remember how Pittsburgh loves Czech guys, because they had Jagr. Sharks have Sturm, they like him very very much, so they prefer German guys.
All those guys like Ehelechner, Goc or Hospelt would be drafted, Sharks just did it first, because they like them.
All those guys like Ehelechner, Goc or Hospelt would be drafted, Sharks just did it first, because they like them.
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