Internal Cap/Budget Teams
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Ottawa has suffered being a donation box to two broke ownership groups,first was Bryden now its EM,the team has never not had a joke of a budget to work with....Both groups claim it the fanbase,yet its more than obvious it has been owners with no money....
We have likely drafted and developed a cup team multiple times, unfortunately when you cant spend you can never realise their potential....As a fan since day 1 I can tell you it has been upsetting to say the least,but the fans in this city have shown up to say enough is enough...And wont put up with this garbage anymore.......... EM OUT!!!!!!!
We have likely drafted and developed a cup team multiple times, unfortunately when you cant spend you can never realise their potential....As a fan since day 1 I can tell you it has been upsetting to say the least,but the fans in this city have shown up to say enough is enough...And wont put up with this garbage anymore.......... EM OUT!!!!!!!
tony d
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I believe the Coyotes are a budget team as well. I disagree with this practice. If you want to keep your team being good and the fans there spend to the cap.
there isn't a single problem with the Sens fan base or the city, Melnyk is and always will be the problem. He's got money, plenty of it, he's a multi billionaire...
he's just a cheap mother ****er that's using the Sens to make a profit, it's just an investment to him.
look at the recent LeBreton arena news. Ottawa's Mayor lashed out at him for being impossible to deal with, Melnyk says all the right things to the public and then flip flops behind closed doors... he wants the new arena... but he's not going to pay for it, he wants the city to pay for it... if that happens... after the arena is built.. he'll sell the team instantly and make a nice little fortune... and unfortunately that might be the only way to get EM out
I hope whoever donated that kidney kept the receipt
SotasicA
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DaveG
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Canes are the very definition of an internal budget team, but that said Dundon had said that he'll open up when the team is in a strong position in terms of play. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Canes splashing a bit of walking around money in ufa if there's someone out there that can get them to the next level.
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For the first time in decades the Isles don’t give a single f*** about spending money. Scott Malkin wears AirPods.
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The Avalanche had the Duchene cap which was basically the beginning of what tore that Avalanche dressing room apart from summer 2014 until he was traded in November 2017.
The Avalanche have since learned from their mistake, have no internal cap and have been given approval from the owner to spend whatever they want, wherever they want.
The Avalanche have since learned from their mistake, have no internal cap and have been given approval from the owner to spend whatever they want, wherever they want.
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SotasicA
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It saved the league. So frustrating to see big market teams just buying all the top talent from other teams.
Easy to say when the $10-15 million risk ain't your money. Interestingly, the Coyotes only spend 6 million under the cap this season.
Its one of the best things to ever happen to the league.
Is that including a whole bunch of fake hits that they aren’t paying?
Winnipeg
Florida
Arizona
New Jersey???
Ottawa
Anaheim
Nashville
Carolina
Stars???
Those are the internal cap teams I am aware of. So those teams are safe from any potential Chia redemption try.
Florida
Arizona
New Jersey???
Ottawa
Anaheim
Nashville
Carolina
Stars???
Those are the internal cap teams I am aware of. So those teams are safe from any potential Chia redemption try.
Couple of sources inside the league told me that Melnyk’s lost a lot of that money for X reason. Basically he just doesn’t have any money to spend/lose. Part of the whole needing an arena partner, also the league hates him and wants him out.
Oneiro
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NJ doesn't have an internal cap. They're greenlit to spend (there was an article with direct quotes last summer), but Shero will only go for the right player on a big deal.
serp
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Stars have one of the highest payrolls in the league . They're not a budget team anymore and have only really been one during the years the former owner Tom Hicks was going bankrupt and the NHL was looking for someone to buy the team.
EnglishDevil
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Dallas, New Jersey, Nasvhille and Florida are not budget teams AFAIK.
Ottawa, Arizona & Anaheim definitely have internal caps, Carolina i'm not 100% sure about but I think their owner is committed to spending whatever is necessary to win.
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habs03
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IMO its always interesting to see the breakdown of contacts. IMO Toronto and Montreal are the best at throwing their money around in terms of structure of contacts. In term of both signing bonuses but also upfront money. It helps you either give the player more value, in the case of Nylander for example, IMO his value increase more in a trade knowing that you'll be paying him less than his cap hit It also helps you out if you hand out a bad contact, Ex. Alzner got a bunch of money upfront, so I think for the next 3 years, he is due about 3.8 something per...
Um... a lot of teams do what MTL did with Alzner. Most larger markets do. For instance, come July 1st Backes is owed 2x2.5 despite his deal being 6x6.
Toronto with its throwing around of signing bonuses SO aggressively is more unique... but they have the cash.
habs03
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I wouldn't say most teams do, more like most big market teams do, Boston being one of them. Its usually done for questionable deals, where the GM lets the owner know he'll give more money upfront incase that contract doesn't work out and its easier to move.
Mtl has done it with Alzner, easier to move 3.8M in cash than his AVV of 4.65 or wtv, same thing with Shaw, he believe he'll be paid less than 3M in cash for the next 3 years making the contact great even with a 3.9M.
But yes signing Bonus is a Select few teams, I think Price contact is mainly all signing Bonuses.
But look at other teams that won't do the upfront money, the Flames who spend to the cap, gave Neal a contact of 5.75 from year 1 to 5. If it was more money upfront, it might be movable in a year or two, but with that structure, that's horrible.
rubikscube
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The Jets aren't a budget team, but the Athletic said that Chevy hates structuring contracts to have upfront bonuses and avoids lump sum payments at all costs.
So that might mean something?
So that might mean something?
