Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by bobholly39, Sep 11, 2019.
Whats your point?
It's more they haven't been able to both stay healthy at the same time for most of their careers. They're #1 and #2 in points per game since they've both been in the league (not counting Mcdavid).
If he doesn't have good goal totals means his point totals aren't that high. Pretty easily figured out by the post i made.
I don't know boss. You may know best but 4 of the 8 times he finished in the top 10, he didn't win the Richard. 3 of the times he won the Richard, he wasn't in the top 10.
I am not sure what we are arguing about. If a playmaker has a poor assist season, he isn't high in the points either. Your point was that goal scorers wouldn't be in the top 10 in points very much. 8 times so far see a lot more than not much.
One more time than Crosby and I finished top 9, so I'd say that's pretty good.
It is just rarely both of them playing a lot of games, after Malkin Rookie season they both played over 70 game only 2 time, the 2 time are the 2 season the OP is talking about.
Would they have both played 75 games or more often, it would have happened often.
To be clear i didn't say Ovechkin didn't finish top 10 often - I said I wouldn't even expect him to (ie it's impressive that he's done it so often, despite being a goal-scorer first).
If you want a better comparable to Crosby/Malkin - don't look at the Caps duo - I think Sakic/Forsberg makes more sense. 2 elite centers (probably less so than Crosby/Malkin though) - played their primes on the same team, and often also dealing with injuries (especially Forsberg).
Sakic/Forsberg finished 3x in the top 9 in scoring at the same time, compared to only once to Crosby/Malkin.
It has been uncanny how many partial seasons Malkin has played. Only five of his thirteen seasons can be reasonably called full ones. For all his injury issues, Crosby has ten full seasons.
Crosby really hasn't had that many injuries. Just the 2 that he had, happened to be really major and or misdiagnosed. The concussion and then the concussion/neck problem that was diagnosed as a concussion.
Not sure why it's so surprising considering the injury time missed (particularly Malkin since 2010) means one or the other won't play enough games to finish in the top 10 in points.
Way too generalized. Kessel never misses a game because he doesn’t hit, block shots, engage in puck battles. Is he better than a similar player who does but misses time due to injury?
Bunch of rookies. Leon and Connor did it twice...
I just used Malkin's PPG and projected his point totals from it had he played all 82 games in the seasons where he missed a ton of time.
fair enough, but the point still stands. had he played all 82, he definitely has more T-10, T-5 finishes alongside Crosby
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