Improvements to North Station and TD Garden taking shape

[BigGoalBrad]

There aren't as many ST holders as there used to be. Look at all the blue dots on TM for playoff games in the upper deck shoot 1x side.

The team is excellent right now so this crap will fly. Celtics should be very good too and aren't as expensive. Also sounds like its only the balcony that is a lot different and the Loge is pretty similar to what it was before.

 

[BruinsFan37]

Is it bad that part of me thinks that they're angling for a new arena?

i.e.

"We tried increasing the number of seats to meet demand, but new the seating configuration is unpopular -- we need an entirely new arena."

 

[Smitty93]

Is it bad that part of me thinks that they're angling for a new arena?

i.e.

"We tried increasing the number of seats to meet demand, but new the seating configuration is unpopular -- we need an entirely new arena."

It's an interesting question because there aren't many arenas that are older in the NHL. Only three were opened before 1993, and two of those (Islanders and Flames) are getting new ones. With all of the money spent developing the Hub on Causeway, they're not going to leave that location. I guess they could tear it down and build a new one in the same place, but then where would they play during construction? No, I think their sticking with the TD Garden for the foreseeable future.

 

[Gordoff]

It's an interesting question because there aren't many arenas that are older in the NHL. Only three were opened before 1993, and two of those (Islanders and Flames) are getting new ones. With all of the money spent developing the Hub on Causeway, they're not going to leave that location. I guess they could tear it down and build a new one in the same place, but then where would they play during construction? No, I think their sticking with the TD Garden for the foreseeable future.

I could see them maximizing their profits to the point where there's nowhere else to go. When they reach the profit ceiling, say 10 years they come up with a plan to make major changes to the building or bite the bullet and come up with a reconstruction or rebuild plan. I wonder if there's any way to to build a new arena on that footprint or if they can move any of the walls out to increase the footprint? When I get the time (out of curiosity) I'm going to look at the building from a satellite image. My nerdy way of having fun.

 

[Fenway]

I could see them maximizing their profits to the point where there's nowhere else to go. When they reach the profit ceiling, say 10 years they come up with a plan to make major changes to the building or bite the bullet and come up with a reconstruction or rebuild plan. I wonder if there's any way to to build a new arena on that footprint or if they can move any of the walls out to increase the footprint? When I get the time (out of curiosity) I'm going to look at the building from a satellite image. My nerdy way of having fun.

The highway ramps would need to be put underground

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Is it bad that part of me thinks that they're angling for a new arena?

i.e.

"We tried increasing the number of seats to meet demand, but new the seating configuration is unpopular -- we need an entirely new arena."

Where?

I mean that area doesn’t need the Garden North Station is enough of a draw for all the condos and other crap.

But I guess you could close Bowdoin Station and have the Blue Line go to North Station and build an arena at Suffolk Downs. You could push back the train station and build a ton of condos where the Garden currently is.

Hmmm.

I live in Lynn and would kill for 1A to be like storrow drive with overpasses where streets cross and no lights it’s ridiculous hitting 6 lights in Revere on that big of a road.

 

[BMC]

I'll be in North Station tomorrow and I'll try to give my impressions of the "improvements" later.

 

[Therick67]

More coverage of the seat 'upgrades'.

https://www.boston.com/news/sports-news/2019/10/10/shrunk-seats-td-garden-complaints

 

[trenton1]

No wonder Jerry took his name off of this mess.

 

[Over the volcano]

Meanwhile at Warrior -

 

[Alicat]

Meanwhile at Warrior -

Clam chowder is gross but cool promo

 

[northeastern]

Anyone else get the email about the seats? The president of the garden said they're making changes?
TD Garden Announces Seat Upgrades | TD Garden

Seating Update

Dear TD Garden Guests:
Welcome to the 2019-20 season. As the president of TD Garden, I want to share an update related to the upgrades that have been made to the arena as part of our Legendary Transformation.
We installed new seats throughout the entire arena, with the goal of providing an improved fan experience. We are listening to feedback that some of the new seats do not meet expectations, specifically in fit and legroom.
Our priority is to make every visit to TD Garden a best-in-class arena experience. We are evaluating the situation with our seating installation and architect partners and we are implementing both immediate and phased-approach solutions. We will make this right for our guests.
With the season underway, don’t hesitate to reach out to me ([email protected]) or your fan relations or member representative with concerns. We thank you for your patience and willingness to work with us.
Amy Latimer
President, TD Garden

 

[Fenway]

Anyone else get the email about the seats? The president of the garden said they're making changes?
TD Garden Announces Seat Upgrades | TD Garden

 

[northeastern]

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Beat me to it! My row went from 12 seats to 13 seats. My seats are way narrower. That link is the first the I've seen them say they squeezed more seats in.

No word on what they're going to do but they're doing stuff... So they say.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Dale Arnold on the radio states they didn’t add seats to increase attendance

Biggest corporate suck up going.

What a drip

 

[Therick67]

Dale Arnold on the radio states they didn’t add seats to increase attendance

Biggest corporate suck up going.

What a drip

He didn't share any insight into how addicting seats doesn't increase attendance?

Charlie, JJ and Dale must really think Bruins fans are stupid..

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

He didn't share any insight into how addicting seats doesn't increase attendance?

Charlie, JJ and Dale must really think Bruins fans are stupid..

Dale did usual of claiming ignorance since he hasn’t been in the building yet since they changed it.
Sure Dale...

 

[the negotiator]

Just send a note to Amy Latimer - I figure it will take a deluge of emails directly to her for there to be any chance for a change so if you are unhappy send a note

 

[dafoomie]

Wasn't too long ago that they had less than 2000 season ticket holders and $12 seats. If they have a rough transition from Bergeron/Chara/Rask/Krejci, they'll pay the price again.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Clam chowder is gross but cool promo

Are you even allowed to say that in New England?

I love the stuff and the reputation you folks have for it is merited - lots of great chowder to be had in MA.

 

[talkinaway]

Anyone else get the email about the seats? The president of the garden said they're making changes?
TD Garden Announces Seat Upgrades | TD Garden

I didn't get that link, but I did get a link to the more "apologetic" message that you linked after.

My reaction to the less apologetic link: Wow, really? They're claiming the average seat width hasn't changed? That is 100%, unadulterated, pure, grade-A bullshit. It's math. Average = Sum of data/number of data points. If you increase the number of data points (ie number of seats), and keep the sum constant (they're not increasing the length of the rows), the average MUST decrease!

As far as the more apologetic email...unfortunately, there's really no reasonable way to fix it. Do you think they're going to redo the seats again next year? Doubt it. Retroactive roll back of seat prices? Dream on. A $10 TD Garden Concessions Gift Card, good for one of Cam Neely's jumbo home-cooked meatballs? Insulting, but given how in-touch-with-the-common-man Jacobs is, a definite possibility.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Dale Arnold on the radio states they didn’t add seats to increase attendance

Biggest corporate suck up going.

What a drip

He sucks. Can't stand Dale Arnold.

 

[Alicat]

Are you even allowed to say that in New England?

I love the stuff and the reputation you folks have for it is merited - lots of great chowder to be had in MA.

Yes especially if you can't do that much dairy.

Also, if you're going to have chowder, I wouldn't be getting it at a stadium.

 

[member 96824]

Dale Arnold on the radio states they didn’t add seats to increase attendance

Biggest corporate suck up going.

What a drip

 

[Aussie Bruin]

Yes especially if you can't do that much dairy.

Also, if you're going to have chowder, I wouldn't be getting it at a stadium.

That's for sure! I've eaten stadium food on 3 continents and it just seems to be universally overpriced and bad, no matter where you are. Wouldn't trust any seafood sold at a stadium unless perhaps it's been deep fried. But even with that low bar some of the worst here in Melbourne are operated by Delaware North, which probably doesn't surprise anybody.