Donga
Registered User
This is a very touchy topic in more ways than one. I agree with the many of you especially Hossa and Brock about the timing issue. I can see why the admin is doing it.
I WILL GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT I'M OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS RUINED THIS LEAGUE WITH THE MASS EXODUS OF THE PLAYERS I HAD WHEN I FIRST STARTED. I had names like Greg Johnson, Sami Kapanen, Bryan Marchment, Artus Irbe (before being crap), Steve Shields, Dave Karpa, Martin Gelinas and Andreas Dackell. All were gone by the deadline of that season.
This rule is to discourage the likes of me doing it. If the admin wants to fire me right now, I will be disappointed but I'll leave no hard feelings. I had an inkling this would come out soon just didn't know how soon. However, this is nothing new to me. This was happening with Buffalo when I first came in. Talking to some of the GM's at the time, none were too pleased about it. When I started doing it, I could feel the heat turn to me.
However, I did trade for Scott Gomez in that deal with former GM Sameul Ley. From memory, the purpose was a semi prospect dump and the prospect of better revenue I would get at the start of the season knowing that I couldn't make the playoffs. This is how I stayed a float for the past two season. Hasnain, you may think I made money but that was on the back of getting off to a good start and winning a few games to get my revenue up. I'm not saying that this is a good way of making money but it seems to have worked for me thus far.
Another note to the Scott Gomez saga, I know that many of you would have kept Scott Gomez as part of your core. When the opportunity to get my #1 tender for the next ten years, I couldn't resist. Rick D wasn't going to be much help to Hasnain at the time, he wanted to get to the playoffs. Why not give him Gomez, in this deal? I got DiPietrio who has a solid rating and will be even more better after this season. I also gave up Kotalik but I also got a 1st rounder who turns out to be Dion Phaneuf. He was awesome at training camp but the Flames didn't want to rush him. Who could blame them when they already had a solid group of blue liners. Although Hasnain didn't make the playoffs, but he thought he could at the time. Now I have my #1/2 blue liner and #1 tender. You couldn't be happier could you?
Currently doing the sums using the updated Rosters, I'm currently 68.65OV. This is good as it will me the criteria for this year. For the next season, who knows. However, in order to get this overall rating, I had to incur costs. All on mf own doing, especially Igor Kravchuk (69OV) and Tony Hrkac (69OV) costing me just below $3mill. However, the waiver was my meal ticket. Corson, Hoglund, Grosek and Ward helped me some what over the line.
With the sudden rule change, like many of you have stated or implied, players that are middle of the road players, their prices are going to skyrocket just to get to the limit. I will reiterate the point
IT IS THE TIMING THAT SUCKS NOT THE RULE!!!!
By, I will say this, THIS IS DEFINITELY A WAKE UP CALL, for me anyway.
Also, I think the thinking of some of the GM's going into the season and their plans before the season could have contributed to the wide disparity in skill between teams. Teams that want to rebuild and Teams that want to make the playoffs. Playoff Teams will always look for bargains with the non playoff team. Which player doesn't want to get a chance to play for a cup contender. I'm pretty sure Andreas Dackell and Martin Gelinas wouldn't be complaining after being traded to the Thrashers and playing in the playoffs for the past two seasons and winning the cup last season. Whenever, there are opposites about, there bound to be an attraction somewhere.
On the Waiver draft, it felt like a ghost town. I had fun myself with the pickups that I did. Don't tell me the players that I picked could not beat some of the teams. Like I reckon I could win all my 5 games against TOR, however many games against TB, a fighting chance against NAS, VAN, FLA, NJD and the possible upsets against the Sens. This could mean a 15-25 win season. With TOR, I have better rated players, Comrie and Hurme might spoil the party but my players will get through. Meanwhile TB doesn't have goaltender and could be with Dull Knife and Dummie Head for $10mill a piece ouch. If he was at the Waiver draft, he could have picked up Jamie McLennan. Who is currently one of the hottest tenders in the NHL at the moment. Despite his .500 record, he has a 2.00 GAA and about 910 SAV% last time I checked. He could be a good get for me during this last off season. Thats wat you get for not turning up to these things. I learnt the hard way with the 2002 draft.
Next question is, Doug you say that you would put Jamie Pushor on the waivers rite. He has a good rating and good salary. He would be a good pick up at the moment for NJD on current standings. Say Irbe is on the waiver list. Why would anyone want to pick up his $4mill multiyear contract just for the sake of getting to a limit when you know that he is gonna really suck next season? what is the incentive in that?
Greg, your idea is sound. May I suggest a hike in prospect fees for overage NA players as compared to Euro players? This will force some GM's to sign the players. Another way to get around is a waiver draft for prospects. Protect so many overage and leave the rest up for the waiver draft. Josh, I can see your face now . Once they sign the players, they can be exempt. Or something to that extent. But this could be tough on the admin. I know there are ways around this. I wonder how through Eric was when he was compiling the list or did he leave it to the honesty system??
thats my 0.17 american cents plus my HFNHL life story ( or parts of it)
I WILL GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT I'M OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS RUINED THIS LEAGUE WITH THE MASS EXODUS OF THE PLAYERS I HAD WHEN I FIRST STARTED. I had names like Greg Johnson, Sami Kapanen, Bryan Marchment, Artus Irbe (before being crap), Steve Shields, Dave Karpa, Martin Gelinas and Andreas Dackell. All were gone by the deadline of that season.
This rule is to discourage the likes of me doing it. If the admin wants to fire me right now, I will be disappointed but I'll leave no hard feelings. I had an inkling this would come out soon just didn't know how soon. However, this is nothing new to me. This was happening with Buffalo when I first came in. Talking to some of the GM's at the time, none were too pleased about it. When I started doing it, I could feel the heat turn to me.
However, I did trade for Scott Gomez in that deal with former GM Sameul Ley. From memory, the purpose was a semi prospect dump and the prospect of better revenue I would get at the start of the season knowing that I couldn't make the playoffs. This is how I stayed a float for the past two season. Hasnain, you may think I made money but that was on the back of getting off to a good start and winning a few games to get my revenue up. I'm not saying that this is a good way of making money but it seems to have worked for me thus far.
Another note to the Scott Gomez saga, I know that many of you would have kept Scott Gomez as part of your core. When the opportunity to get my #1 tender for the next ten years, I couldn't resist. Rick D wasn't going to be much help to Hasnain at the time, he wanted to get to the playoffs. Why not give him Gomez, in this deal? I got DiPietrio who has a solid rating and will be even more better after this season. I also gave up Kotalik but I also got a 1st rounder who turns out to be Dion Phaneuf. He was awesome at training camp but the Flames didn't want to rush him. Who could blame them when they already had a solid group of blue liners. Although Hasnain didn't make the playoffs, but he thought he could at the time. Now I have my #1/2 blue liner and #1 tender. You couldn't be happier could you?
Currently doing the sums using the updated Rosters, I'm currently 68.65OV. This is good as it will me the criteria for this year. For the next season, who knows. However, in order to get this overall rating, I had to incur costs. All on mf own doing, especially Igor Kravchuk (69OV) and Tony Hrkac (69OV) costing me just below $3mill. However, the waiver was my meal ticket. Corson, Hoglund, Grosek and Ward helped me some what over the line.
With the sudden rule change, like many of you have stated or implied, players that are middle of the road players, their prices are going to skyrocket just to get to the limit. I will reiterate the point
IT IS THE TIMING THAT SUCKS NOT THE RULE!!!!
By, I will say this, THIS IS DEFINITELY A WAKE UP CALL, for me anyway.
Also, I think the thinking of some of the GM's going into the season and their plans before the season could have contributed to the wide disparity in skill between teams. Teams that want to rebuild and Teams that want to make the playoffs. Playoff Teams will always look for bargains with the non playoff team. Which player doesn't want to get a chance to play for a cup contender. I'm pretty sure Andreas Dackell and Martin Gelinas wouldn't be complaining after being traded to the Thrashers and playing in the playoffs for the past two seasons and winning the cup last season. Whenever, there are opposites about, there bound to be an attraction somewhere.
On the Waiver draft, it felt like a ghost town. I had fun myself with the pickups that I did. Don't tell me the players that I picked could not beat some of the teams. Like I reckon I could win all my 5 games against TOR, however many games against TB, a fighting chance against NAS, VAN, FLA, NJD and the possible upsets against the Sens. This could mean a 15-25 win season. With TOR, I have better rated players, Comrie and Hurme might spoil the party but my players will get through. Meanwhile TB doesn't have goaltender and could be with Dull Knife and Dummie Head for $10mill a piece ouch. If he was at the Waiver draft, he could have picked up Jamie McLennan. Who is currently one of the hottest tenders in the NHL at the moment. Despite his .500 record, he has a 2.00 GAA and about 910 SAV% last time I checked. He could be a good get for me during this last off season. Thats wat you get for not turning up to these things. I learnt the hard way with the 2002 draft.
Next question is, Doug you say that you would put Jamie Pushor on the waivers rite. He has a good rating and good salary. He would be a good pick up at the moment for NJD on current standings. Say Irbe is on the waiver list. Why would anyone want to pick up his $4mill multiyear contract just for the sake of getting to a limit when you know that he is gonna really suck next season? what is the incentive in that?
Greg, your idea is sound. May I suggest a hike in prospect fees for overage NA players as compared to Euro players? This will force some GM's to sign the players. Another way to get around is a waiver draft for prospects. Protect so many overage and leave the rest up for the waiver draft. Josh, I can see your face now . Once they sign the players, they can be exempt. Or something to that extent. But this could be tough on the admin. I know there are ways around this. I wonder how through Eric was when he was compiling the list or did he leave it to the honesty system??
thats my 0.17 american cents plus my HFNHL life story ( or parts of it)