Speculation: iMac: Canucks will be "aggressive" on July 1st with regards to second-tier FAs

[canuckfan75]

MacIntyre: 'Canucks will be aggressive on July 1st' - Sportsnet.ca

Iain Macintyre keeps harping on Tyler Myers and before sadly passing away Botchford was saying Wayne Simmons to play right wing with Bo Horvat.

MOD: Here's some of the interesting takeaways from that interview.

• "I don't think the $10M guys make sense. Panarin's not coming here."
• Really good players in the second tier, good forwards, but less d-men - can you get them at $6M? Will they want $8M? (iMac mentions players who are "comfortably in their twenties" - names Jeff Skinner (27), then Tyler Myers (29), then Jake Gardiner (29))
• Wouldn't go 7 years on this second tier of players; can these players be had for $5M - $6M?
• iMac: "We know Jim Benning's worst days have been on July 1st." (that's iMac saying that! ouch!) "They need to be careful. They're hoping for a lot."
• Team is hoping to sign a top-six winger and top-four D. iMac unsure if they can get both.
• If it's a guy they "have to have," iMac can see them swinging for the fences a little bit
• iMac is sure Canucks want 2 years for Edler and that Edler wants 3; believes trade protection is a "deal-killer"; "I think for sure they're not gonna give him a no-move clause"
• Jake Virtanen traded for D if we strike out in free agency there? iMac thinks that's possible, bringing up the idea of a project-for-project trade

MOD: Here is the Botchford Athletties article suggesting the Canucks have been linked to Micheal Ferland (27), Marcus Johansson (29) and Wayne Simmonds (31). It is from February 24th.

All listed ages are post-dated to the start of next season

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[Fire Benning]

For Adam McQuaid

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Oh Good God make it stop.

Stop going for second tier overpaid trash.

Panarin, Skinner, Duchene, Lee or dig in the value bin. Stop overpaying meh players

 

[Cupless44]

Simmonds is a clear disaster, a player in serious decline. No excuse for a GM to offer him a big free agent contract. Guaranteed to be another Loui Eriksson in very short order.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Were going for PK Subban guranteed

 

[Vancouver_2010]

Sigh, just fire Benning already, he clearly is going big for second tier Ufa just to save his job. I wouldn't blame him as I will also do that if I am in his shoe.

 

[ziploc]

Oh. Great.

 

[MS]

This - as many of us have been predicting for some time - is going to be a complete f***ing disaster.

This summer has the potential to make Loui Eriksson look like piddling small potatoes.

Dumbest man in hockey with no ability to evaluate talent spending $20 million/year in cap space to desperately try and get an extension? Awesome.

 

[GetFocht]

Were going for PK Subban guranteed

Yes I think Bennings plan is to try to trade for Subban and sign a second tier top 6 winger like Simmonds or Anders Lee

 

[The Poacher]

It’s just a huge mistake many on this forum can see coming. The team is 3 years away minimum to make the playoffs and that’s if we continue to build through the draft with top 10 picks.

So now we’re going to have over paid UFA’s that will have no benefit to the team during the most productive years of their contracts 28,29,30 years old. And have underperforming contracts with players on the decline during prime EP, Boeser, Hughes, Horvat years.

I know Benning will take the brunt of the blame (as he should) but the Aquilinis short sightedness is the real problem here.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Yes I think Bennings plan is to try to trade for Subban and sign a second tier top 6 winger like Simmonds or Anders Lee

Anders Lee had 28g this season, 40g the previous one and 34g in 16-17
He is definitely not a second tier winger, that will be Dzingle

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

if you cant get the star players
then dont

 

[Ita]

If this happens I might just quit watching hockey since I can’t convert myself to be a fan of another team

 

[TruGr1t]

I can't believe ownership would even allow this to happen without bringing an adult into the management room. It's mind boggling that people with money would give the current group authority to sign any contracts given their track record. It really highlights how we have an ownership problem above all else.

How you don't look at this and see a pending f***ing disaster is beyond me.

 

[DonnyNucker]

I can't believe ownership would even allow this to happen without bringing an adult into the management room. It's mind boggling that people with money would give the current group authority to sign any contracts given their track record. It really highlights how we have an ownership problem above all else.

How you don't look at this and see a pending ****ing disaster is beyond me.

The current group doesn’t have authority to sign any contracts....

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Simmonds is a clear disaster, a player in serious decline. No excuse for a GM to offer him a big free agent contract. Guaranteed to be another Loui Eriksson in very short order.

Slam dunk Benning signing. This is the summer we crater the franchise for a generation.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

You all falling for clickbait again and driving up your blood pressure for no reason.

Just chill

 

[DonnyNucker]

Slam dunk Benning signing. This is the summer we crater the franchise for a generation.

A whole generation? Yikes lol

 

[I am toxic]

What I am reading in this thread is that everyone here at HFCanucks thinks it is a very good move for Benning to aggressively sign second tier UFA's like Ferland and Simmonds this summer.

So when it doesn't pan out, remember, hindsight is 20/20.




Who could have known!

 

[MikeK]

Lovely. Let's just go out and give bloated contracts to more overrated UFA's and cripple the next GM so we can continue to blame Mike Gillis for all the issues.

 

[StreetHawk]

if you cant get the star players
then dont

Karlsson and Bread man don’t see any chance of. Duchene I think he finally shed some of that baggage of his rep. He should find a winning team. He’s 28 already and been to the playoffs just twice in 10 years. The next 5 years are when he can be a core player.

 

[mouz135]

#FIREBENNING

 

[TruGr1t]

The best part about that interview is Mouthpiece MacIntyre says the Canucks actually do not want to sign the top-end UFAs like Panarin because they'll cost too much, but they will be aggressive in the second tier. Well that's not exactly what everyone is afraid is going to happen? To be fair though, that's just a tacit acknowledgement that they're going to miss out on on the top-tier guys even if they are "aggressive" and are priming the fans to expect crappy contracts to second-tier free agents.

 

[tantalum]

I fully expect Myers and Simmonds. A d-man who can’t keep his head above water and a 30 point winger in serious decline. And I fully expect they will cost the club $12 mil a year for several years.

I support going after Panarin and to a lesser extent Karlsson. Beyond that they should be looking for deals not bidding wars.

For the strategy to be wrong from the get go (even understanding they don’t have a shot at Panarin) is concerning to say the least.

 

[Snatcher Demko]

I can't believe ownership would even allow this to happen without bringing an adult into the management room. It's mind boggling that people with money would give the current group authority to sign any contracts given their track record. It really highlights how we have an ownership problem above all else.

How you don't look at this and see a pending ****ing disaster is beyond me.

Ownership is behind this 100%. Where do you think the order comes from. Ownership has been the primary culprit from the start.

Benning is a bad GM but he's taking orders here.