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Your point about the price is a good one, as long as the teams who missed out don't get desperate when bidding for Spezza.
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Your point about the price is a good one, as long as the teams who missed out don't get desperate when bidding for Spezza.
Which was the first footnote I wanted to throw in my post, but after giving it some thought, there just really isn't enough money going around for some of these teams to do that. Atleast the ones that I've seen in the race for him.
Unless Murray gets fleeced and the team that does it has the room to even sign Spezza, it's a good shot he ends in Dallas.
I don't want people to get the impression I'm trying to act like I know what's going on or have an inside source.... Just following the breadcrumbs and making educated guesses based on what we know.
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That's not something substantial enough to say that we are the front runners.
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Coyotes might buy out Riberio, we should totally re-sign him 
But yeah, that return on Kesler is pretty much theft.
My guesses are that Statsny stays in Colorado, someone in the east gets Thorton, and Spezza stays.
Watch me be so off on every single one of those.
But yeah, that return on Kesler is pretty much theft.
My guesses are that Statsny stays in Colorado, someone in the east gets Thorton, and Spezza stays.
Watch me be so off on every single one of those.
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Mr Misty
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Yes and he is way marked down on the clearance rack. Also we are not insiders with access (except maybe NukeJukes43
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I am going to be on my own island here but I think Vancouver got the better end of the deal. Kessler is on downturn of his career and did not play better than Bonino at all. Undoubtably Kesler could regain his form from 4 (!) seasons ago, but there's a large risk in him not.
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Yes and no ... most teams don't have extra, young roster players laying around.
Connauton isn't as valuable as Sbisa, and I'd personally say Chiasson has more value than Bonino.
Based on Kesler's return, I'd say one of the Austin guys and Connauton could get it done, but our 1st is also more valuable. Maybe just one piece and 1st. Spezza has less term which is another big hit.
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I'm no Kesler fan, but I'm more shocked by what McKenzie was saying. He was the one throwing out names like Stepan out of NY .... Kadri out of Toronto. He's not just guessing. I'm assuming that's what Vancouver legitimately thought they'd get.
Their empty threat of not keeping him is pretty cute now ... same for Ottawa.
I don't think Vancouver's return is bad at all like you're saying ... it's just very few others believed that. Kind of funny to see now.
Lol so are you just going to pick individual sentences from my answer to use as the answer itself?
Re-read the post please. Also there really isn't a need to be digging into skepticism on me. I simply stated this was my opinion because all of the reports of teams who were in on Spezza seem to be going different directions.
ANA trades for Kesler
STL signs Berglund to an extension probably in hopes of signing Statsny.
The statement on the cap today? Chicago is probably out.
Arizona? Idk. That's.....yeah idk.
Dallas? You fill in the blanks, man. We've been the quietest about this whole thing yet all of us who have a good idea of what's going on internally know we can deal some expendable yet semi-valuable pieces, in order to solidify our top 6 without sweating.
Let me have my fun dammit.
We don't take kindly to people getting their hopes up around here. Embrace the eternal pessimism that fills this forum and its posters.
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What I meant about extra young players was ones that would have little impact to lose. Sbisa is a pretty decent piece that virtually doesn't impact their D to lose him. He was probably already the odd man out.
Dallas doesn't have that with Connauton.
Most teams are only going to be willing to move a young guy to replace him with the better vet ... Bonino for Kesler.
That extra piece for Sbisa is a pretty decent get for Vancouver. He's still got some potential if he can stay healthy.
Dallas doesn't have that with Connauton.
Most teams are only going to be willing to move a young guy to replace him with the better vet ... Bonino for Kesler.
That extra piece for Sbisa is a pretty decent get for Vancouver. He's still got some potential if he can stay healthy.
Precisely. A player is more valuable if you have that buffer year to see how they pan out before you start talking extension. If he doesn't work out in that buffer year you still have a year on his contract and can still get something out of him should you decide he doesn't fit the team.
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I think the Blues are a good bet. They are tightly budgeted, but if the ownership decides to go for it, which they should IMO, they can fit Spezza in for sure. They moved a bunch of their young assets, but I still think they have enough to get it done. If Spezza wants good wingers to play with, we can't really match Tarasenko if Benn and Seguin play together.
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