IggyFan12
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Selanne spent a grand total of 3 years competing against mario, enough with the excuses already. Ovechkin won 2 harts and 3 lindsays, selanne was never on pace to win that amount of hardware even if you take lemieux and jagr out of the league. Ovechkin has lead the league in points per game 3 times, selanne has finished top 2 in ppg once. Ovechkin's playoff ppg is already way better too. Ovechkin has been competing against crosby, who is himself better than selanne and will end up as good as jagr if not better.
I hate this argument, but:
96-97 Selanne wins Art Ross without Lemieux
97-98 Selanne wins Art Ross and Hart without his injury (Should beat Hasek)
98-99 Selanne wins Art Ross without Jagr
Had he taken those three straight Art Rosses he would be top30 all time, but now he's borderline top100
Ovechkin won 2 harts and 3 lindsays, selanne was never on pace to win that amount of hardware
TheDevilMadeMe said:Where does ovechkin need to rebound to? He was 1st in even strength scoring and 4th overall when his team decided to rest him for the playoffs.
TheDevilMadeMe said:6 seasons is long enough to tell how good these players are. It's as long as guy lafleur was on top - of course he has far more playoff success than both
If Iggy ever won a cup, I have to think this would go to him easily.
If Iggy ever won a cup, I have to think this would go to him easily.
Yeah, cause he's a good old Canadian boy. Don, that you?
Or you know cause I think Iginla's a better player? Selanne is a great player in his own regard but 10 straight 30 goal seasons and the fact that he still has time to add to his stats make Iggy better IMO.
Or you know cause I think Iginla's a better player? Selanne is a great player in his own regard but 10 straight 30 goal seasons and the fact that he still has time to add to his stats make Iggy better IMO.
I really don't think you can look at it that way. You put Iggy in the NHL in the early 90s and he racks up points. He played in the clutch and grab era where points were a lot harder to come by. You can't just look at totals here because the leagues were entirely different.Iginla has never had 100 points in a season. Selanne has hit 100+ points four times. (107, 108, 109 and 132!)
Iggy has an Art Ross. Teemu does have four Richard trophies to Iggy's two though. Iggy's got the edge in All-star selections by a hair.iginla has three 40+ goal seasons. Selänne has seven! So even if Iginla wins the cup, I wouldn't call him "easily better" than Selänne. At this point it's Selänne for me but Iginla still has some years left in him.
Call me when Ovy scores 76 goals
I really don't think you can look at it that way. You put Iggy in the NHL in the early 90s and he racks up points. He played in the clutch and grab era where points were a lot harder to come by. You can't just look at totals here because the leagues were entirely different.
Iggy has an Art Ross. Teemu does have four Richard trophies to Iggy's two though. Iggy's got the edge in All-star selections by a hair.
I'm surprised to see Teemu's got that many awards, I hadn't realized that he had 4 Richard's to his credit. That's damn impressive.
I love Iginla and he would've gotten my vote on this (I'm surprised the results show a gap so wide) but Selanne is better than I remembered him.
Thing about Iggy though, there was a point in time where he just might have been considered the best player in the game. He also got screwed out of what would've been a prime year for him (27 years old) because of the strike. Back then he would've been among a handful of players considered the best in the NHL and I don't think Selanne was ever quite at this level.
I'd like to hear more of what others think on this topic though.
I really don't think you can look at it that way. You put Iggy in the NHL in the early 90s and he racks up points. He played in the clutch and grab era where points were a lot harder to come by. You can't just look at totals here because the leagues were entirely different.
Well he has scored 65 goals in a season which is pretty darn impressive in the modern day NHL. Given the different eras, I would say that it's pretty comparable to Selänne's 76 goals. I'm not downplaying Teemu's rookie season though, it was nuts. 132 points for a rookie! Skinner is the leading rookie now... with 58 points. Think about that for a minute.
Ovechkin's 65 goal season was more impressive. I can't believe how over hyped Selanne's 76 goal season has become over the last few weeks. Ovechkin won led the league in goals by 25%. Selanne was tied with Mogilny, who also played 8 fewer games. Lemieux (if anyone wishes to count him) was on pace to score over 90 goals had he played a full season. Adjusted goals puts Ovechkin's total 10 ahead of Selanne's.