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I dispute that.Hell be the undisputed best player of his era.
I dispute that.Hell be the undisputed best player of his era.
What a shocker LOL
I've had numerous conversations with you in the past, and damn near 100% of the time, you go against OV. You're just not as arrogant and obnoxious as other Pens fans on this board so I will give you that.What an obnoxious HF'er you are.
It's not like I didn't explain my rationale. If you had any issues with it - by all means address it. But no - quote the first 3 words of my post only instead for a lol
Seems like a lot of people would continue to rank Ovechkin under Crosby if Ovechkin ends up with 890 goals, but would rank Ovechkin ahead if he ends up with 895 goals.
Ovechkin up there with lemieux? Eyy pass some of that to the left hand side buddy....i'd say if he broke it, or even got realy close, it would move him up a little. Right now if i had to, i'd tier the greats like this (in Tiers, cause a 1-10 ranking is too hard imo). Goalies excluded
Howe
Gretz
Orr
Lemeiux
Jagr
Bossy
Ovi
Harvey
Lidstrom
Esposito
Crosby
Richard
If Ovi has a couple more good years, I'd probably put him up with Mario, and if he breaks the record (or comes really close), he's gotta be in that top tier. The difference in Goalscoring between Gretz/Marios time and now honestly already makes him the greatest goalscorer of all time, to beat Waynes total is a huge feat we may never see anything close to again
You should visit an eye doctorHe would move past Crosby in my eyes, both of his generation AND all-time
I dont think crosby will be ranked as high as u think in the future. He doesnt get the benefit of the doubt like older guys and outside of his stanley cups, his personal resume is not as great. ( to be ranked this high) He has no records that people will remember him from, and he is very blend personality aswell. Absolute Elite player, but doesnt make the cut.He is becoming the Gordie Howe of goalscorers which may or may not place him at the top of the best/greatest goalscorers of all-time which may or may not move the needle very much on his all-time rating.
I don't think he surpasses the Rocket in an all-time list, let alone Hull, Beliveau and Crosby. IMO, he would still be in the "just below the 2nd tier forwards" tier with Jagr.
He is becoming the Gordie Howe of goalscorers which may or may not place him at the top of the best/greatest goalscorers of all-time which may or may not move the needle very much on his all-time rating.
I don't think he surpasses the Rocket in an all-time list, let alone Hull, Beliveau and Crosby. IMO, he would still be in the "just below the 2nd tier forwards" tier with Jagr.
NHL Progressive Leaders and Records for Goals | Hockey-Reference.com
Seldom ever in NHL history has the NHL all time goal leader been considered the best player of all time...
He is becoming the Gordie Howe of goalscorers which may or may not place him at the top of the best/greatest goalscorers of all-time which may or may not move the needle very much on his all-time rating.
I don't think he surpasses the Rocket in an all-time list, let alone Hull, Beliveau and Crosby. IMO, he would still be in the "just below the 2nd tier forwards" tier with Jagr.
He has been in front of Maurice Richard for a while. In front of Hull too [although that one is much closer].
Too much nostalgia for these older players.
I dont think crosby will be ranked as high as u think in the future. He doesnt get the benefit of the doubt like older guys and outside of his stanley cups, his personal resume is not as great. ( to be ranked this high) He has no records that people will remember him from, and he is very blend personality aswell. Absolute Elite player, but doesnt make the cut.
He is becoming the Gordie Howe of goalscorers which may or may not place him at the top of the best/greatest goalscorers of all-time which may or may not move the needle very much on his all-time rating.
I don't think he surpasses the Rocket in an all-time list, let alone Hull, Beliveau and Crosby. IMO, he would still be in the "just below the 2nd tier forwards" tier with Jagr.
That is utterly false. lol!
Maurice Richard, Gordie Howe, and Wayne Gretzky were all the greatest players of all time as of the time they played, and all 3 were the all-time goals leader.
The exact opposite of your statement is true: For 70 years now, the NHL all time goal leader has been considered the best player of all time.
The only exceptions to that statement would be for a brief time when everyone knew Gretzky was inevitably going to surpass Howe as the all time goals leader, and when everyone knew Howe was going to surpass Richard as the all time goals leader. So the only two (very brief) times when the all time goals leader wasn't the greatest player in history was when everyone knew the new greatest was inevitably going to become the all time goals leader.
Gretzky set the all time goals record in 1994. He's been regarded as the absolute best player in history for the past 27 years at least. How the hell can you possibly describe that as "seldom?" It's been true nearly 70 consecutive years!
What on earth were you thinking when you typed this?