Line Combos: If Marleau plays in the top nine, which forward from 16/17 Leafs is pushed down?

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  1. ObscureAlien

    ObscureAlien Registered User

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    The Leafs top nine forwards for most of last year was essentially

    Hyman - Matthews - Nylander/Brown
    JVR - Bozak - Marner
    Komarov - Kadri - Brown/Nylander

    The Leafs still have all of those players under contract (assuming Brown signs) and they also added Marleau. So my question is, which forward from the 2016/2017 Leafs will be pushed down to the 4th line? Or do you think that Marleau will play on the 4th line? Or do you think someone from the top nine will be traded?
     
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    I would drop down one of Hyman or Komarov to start the year.

    Unfortunately, there are likely to be injuries, so I would imagine all ten of these players will play the majority of the games they play in the top 9. That is, unless Kapanen or someone knocks them further down the depth chart.

    There could be a trade as well, but I have no crystal ball.
     
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    it has to be hyman. or maybe brown.

    Komarov's elite defense won't be taken off the checking line.
     
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    No idea ... :fence:
     
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    They're not paying Marleau over 6 million to play on the bottom two lines. Hyman can display his grit and work ethic and all that in a role more appropriate to his skill level.
     
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    Whoever he has decent chemistry with. As long as the new addition to the 3rd or 4th line isn't disastrous with the new linemates. We'll know in october.
     
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    Hyman's compete level is as good as any NHL player. Marleau's game style is a good fit with Marner on paper, as Marleau can set up in the slot and be the trigger man. If JVR stays Kapanen is mis-cast on the 4th line and Leivo/Soshnikov sit. JVR isn't in the long term plan, time to groom other's for the #2 line. Only Hyman could be moved down but JVR and Bozak should be moved out of town. Worst case, Marleau is your #2 center with Marner and Kapanen potentially. Id tinker with moving Nylander and Marner giving Marner time with Matthews and Willy #2 center duties.
     
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    The obvious answer is Hyman. The obvious answer for Babcock is anyone but Hyman.
     
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    No way it should be Brown
    The guy scored 20 goals as a rookie on a checking line

    I'd like to see the Kadri line stay as is as well


    The Matthews line was bloody good the last 3rd of the season and into the playoffs
    Hyman played his part in that as limited as he may be
     
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    All I want is for Hyman not to play with Matthews. Is that too much to ask?
     
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    The easy answer seems to be just slotting Marleau into Hyman's spot

    Marleau Matthews Nylander
    JVR Bozak Marner
    Komarov Kadri Brown
    Martin Moore Hyman

    We'll see how Marleau fits into the lineup come training camp though or maybe a trade is made.
     
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    I really hate seeing JvR and Bozak written on the same line. When is this going to stop...
     
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    Marleau Matthews marner
    Leivo nylander kappy
    Komo kadri brown
    Martin Moore Hyman
     
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    With the depth we have, and if we keep all forwards, I would actually try to make the most out of our fourth line. One way would be to move Komarov down and use it as a defensive line, taking secondary matchups and defensive zone draws.
     
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    Obviously Hyman. I dont know how anyone can see differently..
     
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    Hyman for now. I'll be surprised if both Bozak and JVR are still Leafs by the end of the season.
     
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    u win with guys like hyman ...some nights he was arguably one of our best forwards ,he can play on 30 teams in the NHL .
     
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    Until there is a trade, I'd be willing to see how JVR fits with Matthews and Nylander and have Marleau fill JVR's spot with Bozak and Marner. Hyman moves down to the 4th.

    JVR/Matthews/Nylander
    Komarov/Kadri/Brown
    Marleau/Bozak/Marner
    Martin/Moore/Hyman

    I'm not sure Marleau, at his age, has the legs to withstand 1st line minutes and I think Babcock would like to use Matthew's line more than last year. Marleau's ATOI has been decreasing the past three years, last year's being lower than any time since the 2002/3 season (Hockey Reference). That said, playing 15/16 minutes/game with Bozak and Marner would reduce the stress, still allow him to snipe with Marner setting him up and offer a great option on the 2nd PP unit, while offering a far better effort defensively than JVR does. What the team is paying any player at this time has no relationship to how much or where they play in the line-up. That changes when they re-sign MNM.

    Regardless of where they play him, the above, or any scenario puts the inclusion of Kapanen/Leivo/Soshnikov into the line-up on hold. Which to me screams trade. We know who the main suspects are, I'm hoping Lou can make something happen.
     
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    Everyone likes Hyman. It's only him being stapled to Matthews's hip that anyone has a problem with.
     
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    It has to be Hyman
     
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    Hyman.

    The real answer: last season's team health was unusual. Usually several forwards miss blocks of games throughout the season. Most of the time someone will be out of the lineup meaning no one is pushed out of the top 9.
     
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    Apparently I can't vote (?) but it would be Hyman.
    If Babs wants Martin in the lineup, I'd move Martin to the RW side.

    I really see this as temporary until a move is made involving other winger(s).
     
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    yeah for some reason they let you post pretty much whatever you want as a new user, but you have to wait to earn the responsibility to click on a little circle in a poll


    as for the poll I went with trade a top9 forward I think JVR sees 0 minutes with the leafs this season,
     
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    That would distribute the minutes more evenly too.
    Hyman Kadri Brown
    Martin Moore Komo
    Solid bottom 6
     
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    Same. Years of absolute garbage defensive play and yet they still play together
     

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