The college guys, like Power, who have already played one year of college hockey, would only have to finish their degrees and then wait until Aug of that year to move to UFA. Hmmm, if you were already thinking you were a year away, you are talking about 2 years, playing hockey and earning a degree before you head off into the sunset. Not a slam dunk decision in my book, if you are in that situation.
If Buffalo won the draft lottery and you were the projected #1 pick in the draft, would you sign?
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I mean... Lemieux and the Penguins eventually worked it out, and that benefitted the Pens to the tune of multiple cups. And the Penguins were an absolute gong show at the time.
Lindros and the Nords couldn't work it out... and that benefitted the Nordiques to the tune of multiple cups.
Lindros and the Nords couldn't work it out... and that benefitted the Nordiques to the tune of multiple cups.
All of those clubs drafting at the top are bad. Wherever I go I see it as my job to fix the problem. I don't shop around for winning teams, it's my job and my teammate's jobs to make a winning team. And if I'm hot enough to get taken #1 OA I might just think I'm good enough to pull off what Jack Eichel couldn't do.
That and in all seriousness, with myself, Dahlin, Cozens, Mittelstadt, and the giant hauls they get for Eichel and Reinhart, the team might be half decent in a couple of years.
That and in all seriousness, with myself, Dahlin, Cozens, Mittelstadt, and the giant hauls they get for Eichel and Reinhart, the team might be half decent in a couple of years.
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I bet Buffalo would be a great hockey town if you could help them win.
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Yes. CHL players who are drafted and then go unsigned for three years before free agents. You see it pretty frequently with lesser well-known players; that guy Seattle just signed out of the QMJHL as their first-ever player was picked in 2018 by Carolina.
However, you’d be hard pressed to find a talented young man who would willingly choose to stay in the CHL through his 20-year-old season and stunt his development while forgoing an entry-level contract to make less than minimum wage.
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Nope if i'm Power, Benier or Hughes and Buffalo drafts me, I stay in college at Michigan finish my degree and become a UFA and sign elsewhere. Anyplace but that joke of an organization.
No player has to remain there for their entire career.
If you get drafted by them follow the Trouba/Reinhart path and sign a bridge deal to get to arbitration. Like Trouba the team likely trades you after year 6.
If you are good enough to be valued around the NHL you ask for a trade and you may get out like PLD.
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I'm not gonna act like I'm the one-off who isn't gonna sign. Yeah, I'd probably sign that contract lol
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Remember that as the first wave of the Detroit rebuild crumbles into ashes...
And the second wave shows signs of doing the same.
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2 years for CHL players, but they re-enter the draft if they are still draft eligible (which most drafted players would be). If no one drafts them, then they are UFA. If they get drafted, then they have 2 more years to wait, if they want to go that route.
I found the comments about the Sabres from the Wings fan to be pretty entertaining myself. Absolutely no room to talk from that similar dumpster fire of late.
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At such a young age, I'm signing with any team that wants me and collecting my money.
Gotta secure myself and the family first.
Gotta secure myself and the family first.
Seriously. Imagine you stay in college the extra years so that you don't have to play ice hockey for a living with a team that's been bad lately, and then you get devastating concussions in your senior year and you never earn a cent. Or imagine the Sabres actually turn out to be a really good team in a couple years while you're still doing stats homework.
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Truthfully I would. The level of incompetence from the Sabers pissed me off alot so yes and I would say it publically as well.
Players need to stand up for their careers more.
Players need to stand up for their careers more.
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What first & second wave?
Not exactly the same, Detroit made the playoffs in 2015-2016 season and had quite the run before that. They haven’t had a top 3 pick in that time. They also have competent FO.
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f***. Maybe 3 waves.
First wave: Mrazek, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Ouellet, Jurco, Sproul, etc etc
Second wave: Mantha, Larkin, Athanasiou, Bertuzzi.
Third wave: Svechnikov, Cholowski, Rasmussen, Zadina
In some ways, it's starting to look like Yzerman is starting almost from scratch.
Seider is Day 1.
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Maybe the league should have a rule that if you’re drafting in the top 10 for 5 years in a row you forfeit your first round pick for 2 years. Perhaps it would put pressure on mediocre teams to get your shit together.
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So our rebuild started when exactly? Most of those players came when Illitch/Holland was extending the playoff streak. I see no top 5 picks and only 2 top 10 picks both of which are still fairly young. Most of those players are second rounders or later. If you want to argue that Holland should’ve drafted better, okay but let’s at least acknowledge where that staff was picking versus a rebuilder like Buffalo and the current state of the team.
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How have the handled his injury besides opting for conservative treatment instead of rushing a never-done-on-an NHL player before surgery on his neck?
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Holland was drafting just fine.
The first wave is "rebuild on the fly" assets. Almost all those players were great picks.
The second wave - AA, Mantha, Larkin, Bertuzzi - 4 more great picks.
It's that 15-17 era that's really starting to stink, despite snagging Hronek in round 2.
There's still hope for 18. Guys like Veleno and Berggren are just starting. But I think the outlook for Veleno, McIsaac and Zadina is dimmer than it once was.
Harder to say with Berggren.
But there's a strong possibility that Hronek is the biggest impact player we landed from 15-18.
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My issue is that Eichel wanted the surgery. We're talking about someone that's 24 years old so why would he do something to jeopardize his career? I'm sure he's discussed a multitude of things with the surgeon to gain comfort around this decision to take this action. Yeah, never done on an NHL player but what about any other professional sports? What does conservative mean in this context? That term needs context as could he be living in discomfort without the surgery and a 10% chance of some negative impact with the surgery?
So your issue is with the 2015-2018 draft class and pre-maturely labeling the 2018 draft with just hope. I think draft slot performance and expectations are a little out of align. If you get a mid 6 player or top 4 defensemen with a 30-38 OVR (Veleno, McIsaac, Berggren) then those are good picks and it's hard to say with McIsaac with his injuries but the other two are tracking well. I don't think you will find a Wings fan support the 2017 draft and the 2016 draft we were still chasing the playoff streak. What if Holland got his wish to actually rebuild the proper way and we select Chychrun instead of trading back and still got Hronek plus didn't sign Nielsen? That's two top 4 defensemen but we will never know because he was instructed to compete and not rebuild. We can complain all we want but the simple fact is we haven't had lottery success or even been in a position to pick premiere talent which prolongs the rebuild.
