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Proposal: I WANT TANEV!!!!! (TOR/VAN)

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Seventy7

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For those whom believe Tanev is overrated, I get that he misses games, but he is still a significant difference maker, and could be the difference in any given playoff round...

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Isolated stay-at-home-defensemen by using 2 metrics: -ve rel CF and ZSR. I then compared rel CA vs. ZSR Tanev comfortably the best rel to his peers at suppressing shot attempts. Guddy, not so great (Orpik in pretty bad territory). #Canucks


Also don’t discount the west coast travel factor. Players out here have always had injury issues...
 
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Walt22

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Notsince67 said:
They are. Kapanen is the fastest skater on an already fast team. Due to the forward depth, he is marginalized a bit on the leafs.

Not giving him up for free
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They are not asking. I see 6 tanev requests a week and he (according to leaf fans is crap). I see no one asking for kapanen and he has 9 points and is worth the world. That's a joke. Brandon tanev is fast...he in no world would return a d man or Chris tanev value....and he scored more than kapanen.
 

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Ok so Nucks and Leafs fans are generally in agreement:

1st+2nd and Bracco and we're good or what?
 
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I'm surprised a Leaf fan would openly shout out from a rooftop "I Want Tanev!!! " lol.

Stats above say a fair bit.
 

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I want like you Tanev to my best defensive and hardly hits remove and its clearer we will be like 11+11 champions Sweden and Czech Republic but in the league for us Leafs fans.

I holds on Leafs if they get right team and its my team with Guentzel and some medium class they preppering then 4 world class defenseman and 4 rotatate then Petter Nilsson and current reservist for Maple Leafs. My Leafs are very best choise for current coach too.
 
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McCoy

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Guentzel are my best choise in offensive 1st line.

Kadri is choise in 2nd line.

Kapanen are 2nd line him too.
 

Qwijibo

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Strangelove said:
Yes he is well worth 2 late 1st's.

Especially in a thread entitled " I WANT TANEV!!!!! "
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Teams trading a 1st is fairly rare. But a team trading 2 consecutive 1sts almost never happens. Especially in a cap works where having players on entry level deaks is vital to manage the cap. The last example I can think of is Toronto trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel. Thst didn’t work out very well for them.

I think it would take a franchise level player to garner 2 1sts in this day and age. Regardless of the lateness of the 1sts. Trading away 2 1sts potentially handcuffs a team going forward. Tanev isn’t an important enough piece to take that risk for
 
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Qwijibo said:
Teams trading a 1st is fairly rare. But a team trading 2 consecutive 1sts almost never happens. Especially in a cap works where having players on entry level deaks is vital to manage the cap. The last example I can think of is Toronto trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel. Thst didn’t work out very well for them.

I think it would take a franchise level player to garner 2 1sts in this day and age. Regardless of the lateness of the 1sts. Trading away 2 1sts potentially handcuffs a team going forward. Tanev isn’t an important enough piece to take that risk for
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In a world in which you never kniw what will happen....trading 2 1sts might get you Phil Kessel....but cost you Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. Hypothetically speaking of course.....
 
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Walt22 said:
They are not asking. I see 6 tanev requests a week and he (according to leaf fans is crap). I see no one asking for kapanen and he has 9 points and is worth the world. That's a joke. Brandon tanev is fast...he in no world would return a d man or Chris tanev value....and he scored more than kapanen.
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Just because Tanev has been in the league a while. Just because you are ignorant of prospects doesn't mean everyone is
 

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Liferleafer said:
I will throw this out there:

Toronto
Tanev
Sutter @50% (Leafs could use a3C)

Vancouver
1st 2018
2nd 2018
2nd 2019
Carrick/Bracco/Rosen
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(Canucks fan if not clear) This thread should have ended on like the 3rd post, this is a good deal. I may be a bit pedantic and come back with Sutter @40% but whatevs. Getting two picks in this draft should be a priority for us, we have 6 currently, which is laughable. Getting a 2nd for the draft in Vancouver next year is also a major plus. Gives Benning an option to negotiate if he wants to acquire a very late first next year to march a second prospect up in front of the home fans. From a Toronto perspective I couldn't stop thinking about how much Tanev would have helped in the playoffs. I guarantee they make it past Boston with him.

GodEmperor said:
Ok so Nucks and Leafs fans are generally in agreement:

1st+2nd and Bracco and we're good or what?
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I agree, with a definite preference to the 2nd being 2018 as well. Don't like this deal as much as the first one quoted as I highly prioritize picking up picks and think Sutter, while a serviceable player, is of no use to Van where we are as an organization (that is bad at hockey for the next 2 years min)
 
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Qwijibo said:
Teams trading a 1st is fairly rare. But a team trading 2 consecutive 1sts almost never happens. Especially in a cap works where having players on entry level deaks is vital to manage the cap. The last example I can think of is Toronto trading 2 1sts and a 2nd for Kessel. Thst didn’t work out very well for them.

I think it would take a franchise level player to garner 2 1sts in this day and age. Regardless of the lateness of the 1sts. Trading away 2 1sts potentially handcuffs a team going forward. Tanev isn’t an important enough piece to take that risk for
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Shouldn't be a problem, Leafs can get 4 firsts back if they don't match the inevitable Arizona offer-sheet on Matthews.
 
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In a world in which you never kniw what will happen....trading 2 1sts might get you Phil Kessel....but cost you Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton. Hypothetically speaking of course.....
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Well this year's pick is #25... and next year's could be lottery-protected if you're worried your Leafs won't make the playoffs. :)
 
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heybuddyhowyadoing said:
I'm a leafs fan and I agree with this.

It's common around here for people to run with prospects and their potential vs. proven careers.

Perhaps Grabner is not a good example.

Kapanen does a lot of good things out there. His speed is a factor. He has pretty decent IQ. He's got a little way to go to be as good as Grabner.
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Cheers on a very calm and well thought out response to my legitimate question

I don’t argue that Kapanen has value - I just don’t want him sold to me as something that he hasn’t proven to being.

I think a lot about Jannick Hansen in Vancouver. Early in his career canucks fans tried to sell him as a guy that “once he figured X out” he’d be a 25 goal guy consistently. He never was that guy, but he was an amazing 3rd Line player who had the work rate on the forecheck and was amazing 2 ways with some speed as well. But he never was the prolific goal scorer so many people we’re convinced he’d magically become once he flicked some switch

I don’t doubt Kapanen Can score some goals in this league, but until I see him put up 20-25 goals consistently don’t sell him to me as a goal scorer like Grabner when he’s never showed he can do that in ANY league...

There’s value in other types of players too. Just be realistic about what a player really can provide and has proven can provide and assess accordingly
 
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