I think Marner is going to have a better year than Matthews

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

imho.

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[Suntouchable13]

Nah, Matthews will score close to 50 goals. Marner will never even come close to that. I think Marner is great, by the way. But Matthews will show why he is very close to being a generational player. You guys just watch. Matthews is on another planet than anyone on our team. You'll see.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

he probably will look closer than he should because Babcock loves splitting minutes super evenly, but Matthews is way better

 

[Fogelhund]

If we are talking pure points, Marner just might score the most points on the Leafs this year. Points isn't the only measure of contribution, and a "better" year to a team.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I think Matthews will have a great year and Marner will have a good year.

 

[Marshy]

Marner more points. Matthews more valuable.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

Does it matter? They're both gonna be great

Marner playing with JT is a huge upgrade from Bozak
Matthews staying healthy is already an upgrade from last season

 

[Maplebeasts]

Nah. Marner's great but Matthews is the clearly superior talent and player.

 

[drewjenks]

It could depend on context.

Pretend they both play great...which of these seasons would you classify as better?

82 games played | 50 goals | 30 assists | 80 points | Auston Matthews
82 games played | 20 goals | 70 assists | 90 points | Mitchell Marner

 

[Notsince67]

imho.

ok

 

[IPS]

Unless Marner turns out to have other-worldly chemistry with Tavares, he won't be outscoring Matthews.

 

[Notsince67]

he probably will look closer than he should because Babcock loves splitting minutes super evenly, but Matthews is way better

So if minutes are split evenly and it is super close, Matthews is way better?
This is kind of childish isn't it?

 

[Notsince67]

Unless Marner turns out to have other-worldly chemistry with Tavares, he won't be outscoring Matthews.

As in goals...I would agree. Points are a different thing altogether

 

[drewjenks]

Nah. Marner's great but Matthews is the clearly superior talent and player.

There's separation between them in a lot of areas...but I wouldn't consider talent to be one of them:

- Matthews is a more talented shooter/scorer
- Marner is a more talented passer/playmaker

With that said....I would say that Matthews:

- is taller, heavier & stronger
- plays a more important position
- has a more developed defensive game

None of which has to do with talent.

 

[IPS]

As in goals...I would agree. Points are a different thing altogether

True. But if Matthews starts getting legitimate PP time, his raw production will be insane. His ES numbers are absurdly good, there's zero reason to believe that he can't carry his talent over to the PP if given the opportunity.

 

[TheProspector]

All four of our big four will take turns.

 

[cupcrazyman]

All depends who gets stuck with Hyman.

 

[Notsince67]

True. But if Matthews starts getting legitimate PP time, his raw production will be insane. His ES numbers are absurdly good, there's zero reason to believe that he can't carry his talent over to the PP if given the opportunity.

I hope they both kill it. Marner looking to shoot more as well (which he needs)
The leafs cannot win without both of them having a great year

 

[Dayjobdave]

I think <Leaf> is better than <Leaf> although <Leaf> is pretty good too. Actually, you could argue <Leaf> is as good, or almost as good, as either of them. And now that we have <Leaf>, <Leaf>, <Leaf> and <Leaf> will have more room to operate. Even then, don’t forget <Leaf> and his nifty mittens.

 

[hector morrison]

I think Auston is the better overall player,but curious that some opposing teams fear Marners capabilities more!

 

[Notsince67]

I think <Leaf> is better than <Leaf> although <Leaf> is pretty good too. Actually, you could argue <Leaf> is as good, or almost as good, as either of them. And now that we have <Leaf>, <Leaf>, <Leaf> and <Leaf> will have more room to operate. Even then, don’t forget <Leaf> and his nifty mittens.

Leaf/Leaf <>0

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

So if minutes are split evenly and it is super close, Matthews is way better?
This is kind of childish isn't it?

who says it was super close?

 

[Marshy]

I really think we're all sleeping on <Leaf>.

 

[Stephen]

I actually predict Marner will start slow and heat up throughout the season. He seems to have this pattern going back to his draft year at the very least like some kind of Rocky story arc: slow start, crisis in confidence, gets back to work, gets red hot, finishes the year on a tear.

Matthews will just consistently truck, and hopefully he's fully healthy this year.

 

[frizzer1]

If Matthews is healthy he is generational right now.
Marner could become an all star because of his insane vision and creativity.

I think it comes down to their leftwingers.
Marleau is approaching 40...can he finish those Matthews and Nylander passes?
How much will Hyman hold marner and tavares back?

If it were up to me I wouldn't have either of them top 6...
It would be Johnsson,Kapanen and perhaps Grundstrom..